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<blockquote data-quote="Zinnger" data-source="post: 6670500" data-attributes="member: 6788910"><p>I am not sure that I understand all that is being said about the type and keyword and tags or whatever. But the OP asks about a spell (Hold Person) having an effect on undead. So... if we are going to quote the MM P.6 then lets quote more of it... "A monster's type speaks to its fundamental nature. Certain SPELLS (what we are talking about here), magic items... interact in special ways with creatures of a particular type. For example, an arrow of dragon slaying deals extra damage not only to dragons but also other creatures of the dragon type, such as dragon turtles and wyverns." It then gives a long list of "types". This list has Humanoids and also has Undead. Having separate listings under "type" clearly indicates that they are NOT the same for SPELL purposes. Hold Person has an effect on Humanoid Type and NOT the Undead Type. A Fey may walk on two legs and be basically a humanoid in many aspects but the spell would not work on them either because while Fey have many things in common with Humanoid it is of a different Type and therefore unaffected by the spell.</p><p></p><p>So, the simple answer to the OP is that Hold Person DOES NOT have any affect on Undead as they are NOT of the Humanoid Type (as per MM P. 6&7) and thus cannot be "chosen" for purposes of this spell. Seems simple enough for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zinnger, post: 6670500, member: 6788910"] I am not sure that I understand all that is being said about the type and keyword and tags or whatever. But the OP asks about a spell (Hold Person) having an effect on undead. So... if we are going to quote the MM P.6 then lets quote more of it... "A monster's type speaks to its fundamental nature. Certain SPELLS (what we are talking about here), magic items... interact in special ways with creatures of a particular type. For example, an arrow of dragon slaying deals extra damage not only to dragons but also other creatures of the dragon type, such as dragon turtles and wyverns." It then gives a long list of "types". This list has Humanoids and also has Undead. Having separate listings under "type" clearly indicates that they are NOT the same for SPELL purposes. Hold Person has an effect on Humanoid Type and NOT the Undead Type. A Fey may walk on two legs and be basically a humanoid in many aspects but the spell would not work on them either because while Fey have many things in common with Humanoid it is of a different Type and therefore unaffected by the spell. So, the simple answer to the OP is that Hold Person DOES NOT have any affect on Undead as they are NOT of the Humanoid Type (as per MM P. 6&7) and thus cannot be "chosen" for purposes of this spell. Seems simple enough for me. [/QUOTE]
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