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Hold Person - Two Saving throws per round?!
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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 3122064" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p>Sadly yes.</p><p>Wotc Tried to find a way to make a 2nd level <em>take you out of combat and make you helpless</em> spell "balanced".</p><p></p><p>The Best way a cleric can make use of this spell is to wield a scythe and say... When the ready triggers, cast the spell defensively and if it works, you adjust 5 feet into their square, so the victim’s allies can not. The victim now loses whatever turn they had remaining and they can’t try to break the hold person [that is a full round action]. Since the victim triggered your ready, you will act before he does next. On that turn, take the CDG action to end the held person’s life before they have a chance to make another save. If that victim’s allies approach and are adjacent, adjust to a square that the victim’s allies do not threaten so the CDG can be done safely.</p><p></p><p>This little gem was from the same player that brought the idea into my group to sunder divine foci.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 3122064, member: 1164"] Sadly yes. Wotc Tried to find a way to make a 2nd level [I]take you out of combat and make you helpless[/I] spell "balanced". The Best way a cleric can make use of this spell is to wield a scythe and say... When the ready triggers, cast the spell defensively and if it works, you adjust 5 feet into their square, so the victim’s allies can not. The victim now loses whatever turn they had remaining and they can’t try to break the hold person [that is a full round action]. Since the victim triggered your ready, you will act before he does next. On that turn, take the CDG action to end the held person’s life before they have a chance to make another save. If that victim’s allies approach and are adjacent, adjust to a square that the victim’s allies do not threaten so the CDG can be done safely. This little gem was from the same player that brought the idea into my group to sunder divine foci. [/QUOTE]
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