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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeremy E Grenemyer" data-source="post: 940619" data-attributes="member: 12388">What dead debate?  Their aint no dead debates here!Well, I declared the debate dead, but nobody listened!  That‘s it, you all get a time out. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Anyway, good afternoon from the West Coast of the USA. OK, I’m with you so far.Technically, the Rider uses his own Move Action to move.  The Horse spends its turn to move the rider.  See the PHB for details (Mounted Combat, page 138.)The remainder of your statement is true, assuming the weight of the armor does not also encumber the mount.The second sentence is true.  The first sentence is true only if the total  weight of our hypothetical person (including all gear and armor) does not exceed the weight limit per level imposed by Telekinesis.  (25 pounds per level, IIRC.)OK, were good here.The first sentence is vague.  What situations?  Armor is relevant to Telekinesis and Fly, after all.If you mean “taking a Move action”, both sentences are essentially correct.  However, does the PHB use the term “encumbered” interchangeably?  That is, aside from “encumbered” as it is used in the movement section of the PHB, is the term also used in the section on armor?  IDHTPHBIFOM, but I don’t think it does.The first sentence is incorrect.  Telekinetic movement is effected by encumbrance, as a character’s total weight is compared against the maximum weight a caster can move via Telekinesis.The second sentence is correct.The third sentence is vague.  Do you mean physical movement (defined as swinging a sword, looking left and right, walking, running..) or do you mean “take a Move action”?The second example in the first sentence is also vague.  What kind of movement?  Irregardless, it has been shown several times in this thread already that the description of the Fly spell includes no text whatsoever stating it is necessary to perform a physical action of some kind to make use the spell.The third sentence is debatable.  Encumbrance, or just because you wear armor?The subject and question in the sentence are irrelevant to each other.  Encumbrance has no effect on mental action.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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