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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 2827008" data-attributes="member: 16285"><p>Please show me where the text is differetn in the two quotes I made.</p><p></p><p>I only chnaged the portions bolded/underlined for emphasis.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no inconsistency in the text under swim - which is what people are saying.</p><p></p><p>The OP had mentioned the differences between the DMG and the PHB.</p><p></p><p>There is an apparent difference there.</p><p></p><p>PHB (from SRD)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>DMG (from SRD):</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now the DMG text is in the "glossary".</p><p></p><p>It also does not talk about anything other than staying alive.</p><p></p><p>The PHB text talks about performing other things (i.e., standard or full round actions).</p><p></p><p>If the two texts are put side by side and read, paying attention to the text that is missing from the DMG it becomes clearer, at least IMO, what is meant.</p><p></p><p>The DMG is only talking about water hazards and drowning.</p><p></p><p>The PHB is attempting to address cicumstances that modify it.</p><p></p><p>The PHB takes precedence in matters pertaining to combat and specific actions.</p><p></p><p>The DMG takes precedence when it comes to magic items and environmental stuff.</p><p></p><p>The PHB text is more inclusive than the DMG and hence, IMO, is the defining text to use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 2827008, member: 16285"] Please show me where the text is differetn in the two quotes I made. I only chnaged the portions bolded/underlined for emphasis. There is no inconsistency in the text under swim - which is what people are saying. The OP had mentioned the differences between the DMG and the PHB. There is an apparent difference there. PHB (from SRD) DMG (from SRD): Now the DMG text is in the "glossary". It also does not talk about anything other than staying alive. The PHB text talks about performing other things (i.e., standard or full round actions). If the two texts are put side by side and read, paying attention to the text that is missing from the DMG it becomes clearer, at least IMO, what is meant. The DMG is only talking about water hazards and drowning. The PHB is attempting to address cicumstances that modify it. The PHB takes precedence in matters pertaining to combat and specific actions. The DMG takes precedence when it comes to magic items and environmental stuff. The PHB text is more inclusive than the DMG and hence, IMO, is the defining text to use. [/QUOTE]
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