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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2460209" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>Feel free to disagree, but your opinion is extremely uninformed (Michael Bay did not do <em>Con Air</em> and you didn't even see <em>Armageddon</em>.) And none of his movies are absolute crap. I have yet to see a Michael Bay movie that I thought was truly wonderful, but I have yet to see one that had absolutely no redeeming value either (yes, even <em>Pearl Harbor</em> has it's moments.)</p><p></p><p>That argument might possibly make some sense if there haven't already been big, successful, action blockbusters this summer, some of them only a few weeks separated from <em>The Island.</em> I also don't believe in the nonsense idea that the American public as a whole drifts in taste from week to week between comedy and action. I do agree that <em>The Island</em> is not a bad movie, and the only thing close to an objective standard I can find would tend to agree (an average of 15 critics reviews compiled at movies.yahoo.com rates it a C+; a little better than average, while over 7,300 user reviews average out to B; even better). A more sensible solution is that the marketing for the movie fell flat and was ineffective. They failed to demonstrate via trailers and promotional whatever that the movie would be good enough to capture the audience, so the audience didn't come. </p><p></p><p>Oh, and you seem to be confused between the roles of director and writer for a movie. Michael Bay was the director, not the writer, so he didn't really have much influence in exploring the sci-fi parable aspects of the movie, like you seem to want to. Which, personally, I think would easily have made the movie considerably worse, not better.</p><p></p><p>That's ridiculous. Please explain the success of <em>War of the Worlds</em> and <em>Mr. and Mrs. Smith</em> then.</p><p></p><p>Again, please note <em>War of the Worlds</em> and <em>Mr. and Mrs. Smith</em>. And probably <em>The Fantastic Four</em> as well, although it's still early to tell if that'll earn in the same ballpark. Based on current earnings as of last weekend, that's a pretty good bet, though.</p><p></p><p>Waitaminute... you're complaining about compelling plots and characters in a Michael Bay film while praising the same in a George Lucas film? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 2460209, member: 2205"] Feel free to disagree, but your opinion is extremely uninformed (Michael Bay did not do [i]Con Air[/i] and you didn't even see [i]Armageddon[/i].) And none of his movies are absolute crap. I have yet to see a Michael Bay movie that I thought was truly wonderful, but I have yet to see one that had absolutely no redeeming value either (yes, even [i]Pearl Harbor[/i] has it's moments.) That argument might possibly make some sense if there haven't already been big, successful, action blockbusters this summer, some of them only a few weeks separated from [i]The Island.[/i] I also don't believe in the nonsense idea that the American public as a whole drifts in taste from week to week between comedy and action. I do agree that [i]The Island[/i] is not a bad movie, and the only thing close to an objective standard I can find would tend to agree (an average of 15 critics reviews compiled at movies.yahoo.com rates it a C+; a little better than average, while over 7,300 user reviews average out to B; even better). A more sensible solution is that the marketing for the movie fell flat and was ineffective. They failed to demonstrate via trailers and promotional whatever that the movie would be good enough to capture the audience, so the audience didn't come. Oh, and you seem to be confused between the roles of director and writer for a movie. Michael Bay was the director, not the writer, so he didn't really have much influence in exploring the sci-fi parable aspects of the movie, like you seem to want to. Which, personally, I think would easily have made the movie considerably worse, not better. That's ridiculous. Please explain the success of [i]War of the Worlds[/i] and [i]Mr. and Mrs. Smith[/i] then. Again, please note [i]War of the Worlds[/i] and [i]Mr. and Mrs. Smith[/i]. And probably [i]The Fantastic Four[/i] as well, although it's still early to tell if that'll earn in the same ballpark. Based on current earnings as of last weekend, that's a pretty good bet, though. Waitaminute... you're complaining about compelling plots and characters in a Michael Bay film while praising the same in a George Lucas film? :uhoh: [/QUOTE]
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