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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7477479" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Is my objection to all class-based games?I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.  My thought is that, in a class based game, each class would advance most rapidly in their own class' field of specialty.I'm not expecting a Ranger, no matter how sharp eyed of dexterous, to find and disable traps on a locked door or chest.  I'm not expecting a Fighter type to be good at deciphering magic or identifying items.  I don't expect Rogue/sneaky types to be master healers, etc.So, if anything, my objection is to degrading the difference between classes that's inherent in having everyone get good at every skill and combat specialty at the exact same rate, trained or not.As for advancement being symmetrical: Of course they should be, that's part of good game balance.  The fighter types should get better at combat, the casters should become better casters, the sneaky types should get better at sneaking and fighting dirty, the leader types should become better leaders, etc.  Symmetric doesn't mean identical though.Think of it this way:  In school, did the head of the chess club become a better wrestler each grade?  Did the top wrestler automatically get good at chess (even though he's never learned the rules)?  People may all be created equal, but they aren't created the same.  We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and we tend to focus on our strengths, practicing and improving them, often to the exclusion of other things.  (In grade school, my math teacher couldn't spell to save her life, and in study hall I discovered that my English teacher was of no help at all when it came to math questions.)So I'd be surprised if a Wizard even knew what "attack en quarte'" or "Riposte" meant.  (They're fencing terms specific to formal blade combat.)  And to be honest, there's absolutely no reason why they should.</blockquote>

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