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<blockquote data-quote="snickersnax" data-source="post: 7144654" data-attributes="member: 6888204">I love charisma for elves especially instead of intelligence for the reasons noted in OP.&nbsp; I rarely think of elves as carrying around a book of spells for 1000 years.&nbsp; But I suppose that elves that migrate to human lands might be wizards with high intelligence that just didn't fit in with the rest of the elves.&nbsp; I mean look at Hermey the elf... he wanted to be a Dentist<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />From a human perspective if many of the elves you meet are wizards practicing a fringe elf profession, you might think that all elves are smart wizards.&nbsp; That's what happened to stone giants.... They are all a bunch of crazed psychopathic thugs.I know its been discussed eons before I joined this forum, but I think longsword, when wielded two-handed should be a finesse weapon.&nbsp; It makes sense with elven proficiency and rogue proficiency and the reality of using a longsword and it helps longsword be something other than a terrible two-handed choice.&nbsp; Another solution could be a new weapon type: elven longsword which is a finesse weapon ( perhaps more similar to a historical feder).I agree with Cap'n Kobold about adding other ability scores to weapon attack and damage... .As for elven Dexterity being associated with the more human world.&nbsp; I've always thought of elven dexterity as arising from fey ancestry and having to do with the slowing down and speeding up of time.&nbsp; Make dexterity an integral part of their ancestral heritage.Finally Constitution: Originally D&amp;D elves had a constitution penalty.&nbsp; Fey from the Old English means feeble or sickly.&nbsp; Yeah they live a long time, but constitution and potential lifespan are unrelated in the rest of D&amp;D.&nbsp; Tolkien's elves were fleeing Middle Earth because they were so sensitive to negative conditions.&nbsp; If anything I might give elves the opportunity to take a -2 con for another +2 in another stat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="snickersnax, post: 7144654, member: 6888204"] I love charisma for elves especially instead of intelligence for the reasons noted in OP. I rarely think of elves as carrying around a book of spells for 1000 years. But I suppose that elves that migrate to human lands might be wizards with high intelligence that just didn't fit in with the rest of the elves. I mean look at Hermey the elf... he wanted to be a Dentist:):) From a human perspective if many of the elves you meet are wizards practicing a fringe elf profession, you might think that all elves are smart wizards. That's what happened to stone giants.... They are all a bunch of crazed psychopathic thugs. I know its been discussed eons before I joined this forum, but I think longsword, when wielded two-handed should be a finesse weapon. It makes sense with elven proficiency and rogue proficiency and the reality of using a longsword and it helps longsword be something other than a terrible two-handed choice. Another solution could be a new weapon type: elven longsword which is a finesse weapon ( perhaps more similar to a historical feder). I agree with Cap'n Kobold about adding other ability scores to weapon attack and damage... . As for elven Dexterity being associated with the more human world. I've always thought of elven dexterity as arising from fey ancestry and having to do with the slowing down and speeding up of time. Make dexterity an integral part of their ancestral heritage. Finally Constitution: Originally D&D elves had a constitution penalty. Fey from the Old English means feeble or sickly. Yeah they live a long time, but constitution and potential lifespan are unrelated in the rest of D&D. Tolkien's elves were fleeing Middle Earth because they were so sensitive to negative conditions. If anything I might give elves the opportunity to take a -2 con for another +2 in another stat. [/QUOTE]

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