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<blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 8439336" data-attributes="member: 59848"><p>So I am intrigued by a lot of your ideas here. I don't know that I have much insight or recommendations regarding the functioning of the Hearts of the Progenitor Dragons, but I have some questions that may help shape some of your thoughts.</p><p></p><p>So the first thing that I notice is that based on your descriptions, in your version of Eberron the progenitor dragons are not just a myth, but are in fact a reality and led to the formation of Eberron and its multiverse. So given this, what is the purpose of the Hearts of the Progenitor Dragons? Based on the creation myth in the setting, Khyber slew Siberys, and Eberron sacrificed itself to contain Khyber. While the creation myth doesn't directly indicate it, I've always assumed that the actions of Eberron against Khyber functionally killed them. But that's my assumption. In your game, are Khyber and Eberron still alive? And whether the progenitor dragons are alive or dead, what makes their essence seek out large dragonshards to inhabit? Why do they have to move or find new dragonshards to inhabit rather than stay in one place? If there is some essence of the progenitor dragons that still lingers beyond their demise, what goals are they striving to achieve by inhabiting these large stones?</p><p></p><p>Another question I have is that if these hearts of the progenitor dragons possess fragments of their essence, why would the essence of Khyber choose to take up residence in the same shard containing Rak Tulkhesh? How would the essence of Khyber itself fit in the same space contained by a fragment (and a large fragment by your description) of the Rage of War? I am assuming that Rak Tulkhesh was contained in the stone prior to Khyber's essence choosing it as its new heart since they move around, and so what effect would that have on Rak Tulkhesh? How might the servants of this Overlord attempt to use the Heart in service of their master? Did Vvaraak know the nature of this large dragonshard and what might it signify that it was found within her crypt?</p><p></p><p>Additionally, it seems to me that if these hearts exist and can have such an effect on the Draconic Prophecy, where is the Chamber involved in all of this. This seems like something they would be aware of and working hard to obtain the hearts for their own purpose, if for no other reason than to keep such power out of the hands of mortals (I doubt they want to repeat working with the elves to destroy House Vol or do another continental wipe like they did with Xen'drik).</p><p></p><p>Finally, why would the Heart of the Progenitors only enhance the powers of their respective dragonshard types? If these stones truly contain the essence of the progenitors, it seems unlikely that their powers would be so well-defined. At the very least, from my perspective they would function more like intelligent or semi-intelligent artifacts with abilities that could be accessed even without the creation of Eldritch Machines (though certainly Eldritch Machines might be able to focus those energies to achieve certain additional effects). And certainly they would be something that could be broken up or ground into dust. At least not without some epic magic or another powerful artifact made for such a purpose.</p><p></p><p>Also, if it is possible for these Hearts of the Progenitors to restore their respective progenitor dragons to life, then why has it taken so long to do so? Do the essences of the progenitor dragons want to return to full life? What might have prevented this from happening in the past? Surely there are some beings who are or have existed that realize this potential, and have tried to bring it about? And if so, then there were likely others seeking to prevent such an outcome. How do these artifacts fit into the greater history of Eberron?</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure if any of this is helpful. They are some of the questions I would try to answer in my own game, which would then better guide me in terms of how I would want these artifacts to function within the campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawk Diesel, post: 8439336, member: 59848"] So I am intrigued by a lot of your ideas here. I don't know that I have much insight or recommendations regarding the functioning of the Hearts of the Progenitor Dragons, but I have some questions that may help shape some of your thoughts. So the first thing that I notice is that based on your descriptions, in your version of Eberron the progenitor dragons are not just a myth, but are in fact a reality and led to the formation of Eberron and its multiverse. So given this, what is the purpose of the Hearts of the Progenitor Dragons? Based on the creation myth in the setting, Khyber slew Siberys, and Eberron sacrificed itself to contain Khyber. While the creation myth doesn't directly indicate it, I've always assumed that the actions of Eberron against Khyber functionally killed them. But that's my assumption. In your game, are Khyber and Eberron still alive? And whether the progenitor dragons are alive or dead, what makes their essence seek out large dragonshards to inhabit? Why do they have to move or find new dragonshards to inhabit rather than stay in one place? If there is some essence of the progenitor dragons that still lingers beyond their demise, what goals are they striving to achieve by inhabiting these large stones? Another question I have is that if these hearts of the progenitor dragons possess fragments of their essence, why would the essence of Khyber choose to take up residence in the same shard containing Rak Tulkhesh? How would the essence of Khyber itself fit in the same space contained by a fragment (and a large fragment by your description) of the Rage of War? I am assuming that Rak Tulkhesh was contained in the stone prior to Khyber's essence choosing it as its new heart since they move around, and so what effect would that have on Rak Tulkhesh? How might the servants of this Overlord attempt to use the Heart in service of their master? Did Vvaraak know the nature of this large dragonshard and what might it signify that it was found within her crypt? Additionally, it seems to me that if these hearts exist and can have such an effect on the Draconic Prophecy, where is the Chamber involved in all of this. This seems like something they would be aware of and working hard to obtain the hearts for their own purpose, if for no other reason than to keep such power out of the hands of mortals (I doubt they want to repeat working with the elves to destroy House Vol or do another continental wipe like they did with Xen'drik). Finally, why would the Heart of the Progenitors only enhance the powers of their respective dragonshard types? If these stones truly contain the essence of the progenitors, it seems unlikely that their powers would be so well-defined. At the very least, from my perspective they would function more like intelligent or semi-intelligent artifacts with abilities that could be accessed even without the creation of Eldritch Machines (though certainly Eldritch Machines might be able to focus those energies to achieve certain additional effects). And certainly they would be something that could be broken up or ground into dust. At least not without some epic magic or another powerful artifact made for such a purpose. Also, if it is possible for these Hearts of the Progenitors to restore their respective progenitor dragons to life, then why has it taken so long to do so? Do the essences of the progenitor dragons want to return to full life? What might have prevented this from happening in the past? Surely there are some beings who are or have existed that realize this potential, and have tried to bring it about? And if so, then there were likely others seeking to prevent such an outcome. How do these artifacts fit into the greater history of Eberron? I'm not sure if any of this is helpful. They are some of the questions I would try to answer in my own game, which would then better guide me in terms of how I would want these artifacts to function within the campaign. [/QUOTE]
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