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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6186275" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>The Moon Demon Mages' saves of <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: black">Fort +7 Ref +8 Will +9 </span></span>are correct.</p><p></p><p> Base is Fort +6, Ref +6, Will +6 from its 9 HD.</p><p></p><p>The Con 12 adds +1 Fort, for Fort +7.</p><p>The Dex 15 adds +2 Ref, for Ref +8.</p><p>The Wis 16 adds +3 Will, for Will +9.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's right, Quasits are plain Demons without the Tanar'ri subtype. They weren't Tanar'ri in 2nd edition AD&D either.</p><p></p><p>There's a handy list in Appendix 3 of <em>Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss</em> that gives the subtypes of all the 3E demons published up to that point.</p><p></p><p>Of the SRD Demons, all except the Bebilith, Quasit and Retriever are Tanar'ri.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They certainly look more like a CR 4 as currently statted.</p><p></p><p>If you're aiming to make the basic Moon Demon a CR 3 monster I would suggest lowering the Hit Dice to 4 and giving them DR 5/magic or cold iron (although DR 5/magic or good would work, and DR 5/magic or good or cold iron is a possibility).</p><p></p><p>That'll involve re-figuring the stats, obviously. It'd also mean they'll likely have Advancement 5-8 HD (Small); 9-12 HD (Medium), which fits in neatly with the 9 Hit Dice of the Advanced and Mage versions.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, Mephits have very weak stats so should probably have been CR 2. A Quasit is almost as dangerous due to its poison and SLAs (mainly the <em>invisibility</em>).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6186275, member: 57383"] The Moon Demon Mages' saves of [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]Fort +7 Ref +8 Will +9 [/COLOR][/FONT]are correct. Base is Fort +6, Ref +6, Will +6 from its 9 HD. The Con 12 adds +1 Fort, for Fort +7. The Dex 15 adds +2 Ref, for Ref +8. The Wis 16 adds +3 Will, for Will +9. That's right, Quasits are plain Demons without the Tanar'ri subtype. They weren't Tanar'ri in 2nd edition AD&D either. There's a handy list in Appendix 3 of [I]Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss[/I] that gives the subtypes of all the 3E demons published up to that point. Of the SRD Demons, all except the Bebilith, Quasit and Retriever are Tanar'ri. They certainly look more like a CR 4 as currently statted. If you're aiming to make the basic Moon Demon a CR 3 monster I would suggest lowering the Hit Dice to 4 and giving them DR 5/magic or cold iron (although DR 5/magic or good would work, and DR 5/magic or good or cold iron is a possibility). That'll involve re-figuring the stats, obviously. It'd also mean they'll likely have Advancement 5-8 HD (Small); 9-12 HD (Medium), which fits in neatly with the 9 Hit Dice of the Advanced and Mage versions. Incidentally, Mephits have very weak stats so should probably have been CR 2. A Quasit is almost as dangerous due to its poison and SLAs (mainly the [I]invisibility[/I]). [/QUOTE]
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