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<blockquote data-quote="rkanodia" data-source="post: 1749074" data-attributes="member: 11681"><p>I'm certainly not the king of balance, but I do have a few things to say about the class.</p><p></p><p>First, very cool idea. These seem like the perfect guys for House Phiarlain and House Thuranni to continually deny the existence of. They've got the spy stuff, they've got the occult powers, good deal.</p><p></p><p>Second, you may want to reconsider the entry requirements of this class, or cut some of the class features and compress it to a five- or even three-level class. High level characters are rare in Eberron, and as you've written it, a character has to be 10th level to start and 19th level to finish his levels in Umbral Master. </p><p></p><p>Third, the name powers are just too good. When you know someone's name, birthday, and alignment (which shouldn't be too hard when you're a major member of the best spying outfit on the continent and you can scry once a day), you get SR 15 + level, DR 10/-, +8 AC, you maximize your damage, <em>and</em> you automatically confirm criticals against them? Sign me up. I would consider borrowing/modifying/stealing something more along the lines of the Mindspy from Complete Warrior (moving the continuous detect thoughts ability up to 1st or 2nd level), and giving the target a -4 penalty to his Will save for each of the relevant things you know about him.</p><p></p><p>As far as animate shadows goes, this is not a bad ability (although I cringe when I think of a gargantuan shadow dealing an average of 19 points of strength damage per hit) but perhaps it would work better as granting greater shadow conjuration once per day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rkanodia, post: 1749074, member: 11681"] I'm certainly not the king of balance, but I do have a few things to say about the class. First, very cool idea. These seem like the perfect guys for House Phiarlain and House Thuranni to continually deny the existence of. They've got the spy stuff, they've got the occult powers, good deal. Second, you may want to reconsider the entry requirements of this class, or cut some of the class features and compress it to a five- or even three-level class. High level characters are rare in Eberron, and as you've written it, a character has to be 10th level to start and 19th level to finish his levels in Umbral Master. Third, the name powers are just too good. When you know someone's name, birthday, and alignment (which shouldn't be too hard when you're a major member of the best spying outfit on the continent and you can scry once a day), you get SR 15 + level, DR 10/-, +8 AC, you maximize your damage, [i]and[/i] you automatically confirm criticals against them? Sign me up. I would consider borrowing/modifying/stealing something more along the lines of the Mindspy from Complete Warrior (moving the continuous detect thoughts ability up to 1st or 2nd level), and giving the target a -4 penalty to his Will save for each of the relevant things you know about him. As far as animate shadows goes, this is not a bad ability (although I cringe when I think of a gargantuan shadow dealing an average of 19 points of strength damage per hit) but perhaps it would work better as granting greater shadow conjuration once per day. [/QUOTE]
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