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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7358907" data-attributes="member: 20564">The first question I always ask when introducing house rules several have already asked:&nbsp; does this add enough to play to justify the added complexity.The second question is &quot;does this change the balance for a subset of PCs?&quot;.&nbsp; Sometimes, if someone is underpowered I want it.&nbsp; In this case I haven't experienced anyone saying armor is OP, so that's not the case.&nbsp; In that case, this feels like a nerf to certain character types.So, what bonus to do give to armor wearers to offset this?&nbsp; My first through would be that any damage the armor takes would be less damage that the PC takes.&nbsp; That puts every armor wearer at about 2/3 of the Heavy Armor Proficiency feat.&nbsp; But that doesn't scale particularly well we have giants doing 30+ damage per hit which still in single digit CRs.Basically, tanks are already attacked the most, this rule also makes them the most likely to lose their armor.&nbsp; Since they are supposed to get in the way, losing their armor also make them least likely to be able to continue to fulfill their role.&nbsp; An ranged character like an archer or caster can still function with lower AC will a much less reduction in their efficiency in what they bring to the party.&nbsp; So we need a massive bonus to tanks to offset this nerf.&nbsp; Else tanks will all become no-armor like barbarians.&nbsp; (Or carry multiple sets of armor and swap them out all the time.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7358907, member: 20564"] The first question I always ask when introducing house rules several have already asked: does this add enough to play to justify the added complexity. The second question is "does this change the balance for a subset of PCs?". Sometimes, if someone is underpowered I want it. In this case I haven't experienced anyone saying armor is OP, so that's not the case. In that case, this feels like a nerf to certain character types. So, what bonus to do give to armor wearers to offset this? My first through would be that any damage the armor takes would be less damage that the PC takes. That puts every armor wearer at about 2/3 of the Heavy Armor Proficiency feat. But that doesn't scale particularly well we have giants doing 30+ damage per hit which still in single digit CRs. Basically, tanks are already attacked the most, this rule also makes them the most likely to lose their armor. Since they are supposed to get in the way, losing their armor also make them least likely to be able to continue to fulfill their role. An ranged character like an archer or caster can still function with lower AC will a much less reduction in their efficiency in what they bring to the party. So we need a [I]massive[/I] bonus to tanks to offset this nerf. Else tanks will all become no-armor like barbarians. (Or carry multiple sets of armor and swap them out all the time.) [/QUOTE]

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