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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 1805946" data-attributes="member: 224">...You're implication being that guidelines are not rules.Okay, I can see why you might make that distinction.But, honestly, I'm not sure that distinction is useful, especially with regard to pricing magic items.&nbsp; These are more than just &quot;general guidelines&quot;; they are quite elaborate!&nbsp; So really, our argument boils down to: &quot;When are guidlines considered rules?&quot;&nbsp; I'd say the magic item section qualifies.&nbsp; It's length alone is a strong indicator.There are specific rules for creating new magic items...far more specific than other &quot;guidelines&quot; or &quot;variants&quot; listed in other areas.&nbsp; The first rule is: compare to other listed items.&nbsp; The second rule is: use these formulas to estimate price.&nbsp; The third is: If it smells fishy, it's probably fish......or some such.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Or, to throw another cliche out there: if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck.....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 1805946, member: 224"] ...You're implication being that guidelines are not rules. Okay, I can see why you might make that distinction. But, honestly, I'm not sure that distinction is [b]useful[/b], especially with regard to pricing magic items. These are more than just "general guidelines"; they are quite elaborate! So really, our argument boils down to: "When are guidlines considered rules?" I'd say the magic item section qualifies. It's length alone is a strong indicator. There are specific rules for creating new magic items...[i]far more specific[/i] than other "guidelines" or "variants" listed in other areas. The first rule is: compare to other listed items. The second rule is: use these formulas to estimate price. The third is: If it smells fishy, it's probably fish......or some such. :) Or, to throw another cliche out there: if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck..... [/QUOTE]

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