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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3293005" data-attributes="member: 6562">At the time you speak an Infernal Oath, you effectively subject yourself to a geas-type of effect. There is also a strong hint that the DM will be as cruel and literal as possible in interpreting the Oath. You cannot help but keep the Oath. You also give Infernal powers implicit permission to "help" you (should you die, for example, you implicitly give Asmodeus permission to re-animate your corpse as an undead with the specific mission of fulfilling your Oath, as horribly and literally as possible).I need to think of some legendary examples of this. Any help?Yes. You must understand the meaning of the words, though the implications may be beyond your immediate grasp.The pass-phrase through the magic door is a great idea. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious    :]" data-shortname=":]" /> Hell, even good Wizards might use it: "I shall leave this house when commanded."Mortals debate this kind of thing all the time in my setting. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> It has no measurable game effect.One cannot lie in Celestial. One can be ignorant in any language. Perhaps Celestial gets around this particular logical thorn by not having a way to specify objective facts, but rather basing all utterances on faith: "I believe" rather than "it is".The gods reserve the right to smite people who try to trick them into giving high-level spell effects without taking enough Cleric levels. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />IMC, Celestial isn't a written language anyway, so it's not particularly important. (Why is it not written? Mostly because I want to stress that LE is about contracts, while Good is about Faith. But it side-steps this issue, too, albeit inadvertently. The fact that Devils can lie in Celestial would mean you can't actually trust any given Celestial textbook anyway, unless you knew the writer pretty well. Hmm. I'm keeping the non-written aspect.)Thanks, -- N</blockquote>

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