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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4324449" data-attributes="member: 22779">Swimming WAY upthread for this quote.I would point out that it works both ways.&nbsp; Yup, the &quot;trufandom&quot; response that we get is due to the D&amp;D branding.&nbsp; As is the vitriol spilled all over the game by those who have an emotional stake in the slaughter of sacred beef.No one gets too anti M&amp;M, or Iron Heroes.&nbsp; About the only time you see any bad words about C&amp;C is when C&amp;C fans start beaking off about how it's the one true game of D&amp;D.&nbsp; If 4e wasn't D&amp;D, you're right, no one would care, just like not a whole lot of people care about any d20 product.&nbsp; That it's the new edition of D&amp;D touches a great many more people, in both good and bad ways.On the question of &quot;Is it really D&amp;D&quot;?&nbsp; Well, considering how much it draws on earlier editions - I was just remarking on the price of Plate Mail which is almost identical to my 1981 Moldvay Basic book.I look at 4e and all I see are retro elements drawing on the earliest stuff from D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4324449, member: 22779"] Swimming WAY upthread for this quote. I would point out that it works both ways. Yup, the "trufandom" response that we get is due to the D&D branding. As is the vitriol spilled all over the game by those who have an emotional stake in the slaughter of sacred beef. No one gets too anti M&M, or Iron Heroes. About the only time you see any bad words about C&C is when C&C fans start beaking off about how it's the one true game of D&D. If 4e wasn't D&D, you're right, no one would care, just like not a whole lot of people care about any d20 product. That it's the new edition of D&D touches a great many more people, in both good and bad ways. On the question of "Is it really D&D"? Well, considering how much it draws on earlier editions - I was just remarking on the price of Plate Mail which is almost identical to my 1981 Moldvay Basic book. I look at 4e and all I see are retro elements drawing on the earliest stuff from D&D. [/QUOTE]

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