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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4324637" data-attributes="member: 710">But I feel that his exactly didn't happen. There is no Phantom Fungus in 4E. I didn't find any monster yet that's just there to fill something needed.The closest I can think of is an epic level Minion, a &quot;Lich Vestige&quot;, even that has flavor that explains its existence and makes it interesting. (Lich Vestiges are the shells of destroyed Lichs and are pretty... brittle)The classes all use the same core mechanics with the standardized power progression. The only thing that differentiates them is their strong flavor, pressed into their class features and the powers themselves. If anything, 4E relies more on credible thematic flavor then 3E. It is not following the same trend. And if there weren't so many voices against flavouring a lot of rules aspects in the community, we might have gotten even more.But compare this: 4E has feats like Astral Fire (extra damage to fire and radiant damage powers). This feels a lot more thematic to me then Energy Substition (Cold) (can make a fireball deal cold damage, but still let it burn paper and other stuff easily combustible).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4324637, member: 710"] But I feel that his exactly didn't happen. There is no Phantom Fungus in 4E. I didn't find any monster yet that's just there to fill something needed. The closest I can think of is an epic level Minion, a "Lich Vestige", even that has flavor that explains its existence and makes it interesting. (Lich Vestiges are the shells of destroyed Lichs and are pretty... brittle) The classes all use the same core mechanics with the standardized power progression. The only thing that differentiates them is their strong flavor, pressed into their class features and the powers themselves. If anything, 4E relies more on credible thematic flavor then 3E. It is not following the same trend. And if there weren't so many voices against flavouring a lot of rules aspects in the community, we might have gotten even more. But compare this: 4E has feats like Astral Fire (extra damage to fire and radiant damage powers). This feels a lot more thematic to me then Energy Substition (Cold) (can make a fireball deal cold damage, but still let it burn paper and other stuff easily combustible). [/QUOTE]

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