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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3110540" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>But then we have a problem. Who does that judging? How is the merit judged? What counts as having merit, and what doesnt? Is it based on what is or isnt commericially successful? If thats the case, than Eragon certainly has merit, and in fact many works of literature that are often considered sub par would in fact have more merit than many that are considered "classics"</p><p></p><p>We can only each of us decide these things for ourselves. Which is, again, just our opinion. You dont think Eragon has merit. Many people do. Who is right?</p><p></p><p>The answer is, it does have merit, but something can have merit, but not be enjoyed/appreciated by/fit the taste of everyone. Works of creativity dont even need to BE judged in the first place, except within the taste of each individual person. The fact that some people dislike a thing doesnt detract from its value to those who do like it.</p><p></p><p>This also raises another question as well...if as you say creative works have or lack some sort of objective merit decided upon by...you? Me? whoever? then does that mean that someone who enjoys a work that is decided to lack merit somehow lack something themselves?</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I was refering to your response to my statement that I dont feel I was as drastically different person at 21 than I was at 15. Your response was, as near as I could tell, an implied/indirect insult.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>If I have the opinion that the sky is purple, does that make it so?</p><p></p><p>Some things are not subjective, they are objective. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, everything that I have seen in this thread that you have put forth has been some combination of negative, highly abrasive, insulting or sarcastic. You have put forth a feeling of being someone who has little or no empathy, sympathy, or overall regard for other people, their efforts, or their works.</p><p></p><p>I may be entirely wrong, but that is the impression your posts are putting forth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>One or two of your statements ascribe a little malice to themselves. Unless you make it clear that they arent ment maliciously...remember in this format we have only the actual word of what we say to go by...no intonation, no facial expressions to alter the impact of a statement. </p><p></p><p>And a good deal more of your statements even if not ascribing full blown malice to themselves, do ascribe a certain lack of regard for others feelings, and a certain degree of (intentional?) abraisiveness.</p><p></p><p>Now from what you've said you seem to be the sort who doesnt really care about feelings and probably believes that anyone who is offended or emotionally upset by anything anyone says is somehow weak or deficient, but most people have feelings, and can have those feelings impacted negatively by other people. Thats why we should take those things into account when interacting, simply to make everyone's lives easier...thats why ettiquette, manners and consideration exist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 3110540, member: 10397"] But then we have a problem. Who does that judging? How is the merit judged? What counts as having merit, and what doesnt? Is it based on what is or isnt commericially successful? If thats the case, than Eragon certainly has merit, and in fact many works of literature that are often considered sub par would in fact have more merit than many that are considered "classics" We can only each of us decide these things for ourselves. Which is, again, just our opinion. You dont think Eragon has merit. Many people do. Who is right? The answer is, it does have merit, but something can have merit, but not be enjoyed/appreciated by/fit the taste of everyone. Works of creativity dont even need to BE judged in the first place, except within the taste of each individual person. The fact that some people dislike a thing doesnt detract from its value to those who do like it. This also raises another question as well...if as you say creative works have or lack some sort of objective merit decided upon by...you? Me? whoever? then does that mean that someone who enjoys a work that is decided to lack merit somehow lack something themselves? I was refering to your response to my statement that I dont feel I was as drastically different person at 21 than I was at 15. Your response was, as near as I could tell, an implied/indirect insult. If I have the opinion that the sky is purple, does that make it so? Some things are not subjective, they are objective. Well, everything that I have seen in this thread that you have put forth has been some combination of negative, highly abrasive, insulting or sarcastic. You have put forth a feeling of being someone who has little or no empathy, sympathy, or overall regard for other people, their efforts, or their works. I may be entirely wrong, but that is the impression your posts are putting forth. One or two of your statements ascribe a little malice to themselves. Unless you make it clear that they arent ment maliciously...remember in this format we have only the actual word of what we say to go by...no intonation, no facial expressions to alter the impact of a statement. And a good deal more of your statements even if not ascribing full blown malice to themselves, do ascribe a certain lack of regard for others feelings, and a certain degree of (intentional?) abraisiveness. Now from what you've said you seem to be the sort who doesnt really care about feelings and probably believes that anyone who is offended or emotionally upset by anything anyone says is somehow weak or deficient, but most people have feelings, and can have those feelings impacted negatively by other people. Thats why we should take those things into account when interacting, simply to make everyone's lives easier...thats why ettiquette, manners and consideration exist. [/QUOTE]
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