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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Hope" data-source="post: 3112707" data-attributes="member: 27051"><p>The results are the degree and type of personal appreciation that the work evokes in me. Nothing more. Nothing less. You really need to understand this about my position. The value and merit of art is subjective in my opinion. That's all there is to it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not going to bandy semantics with you. I don't agree with you that art has any kind of objective value that derives from it being a piece of creative work. Whether you choose to call that merit, quality or whatever, I see it as wholly subjective.</p><p>(The only objective elements are technical: Is this harmony in key? Is this brush stroke unintentionally blurred? Is this sentence ungrammatical? The rest is in the eye of the beholder).</p><p>We can go round and round on this if you like, but it won't get you anywhere as far as I am concerned.</p><p></p><p></p><p>None of this addresses my point in the slightest. It's all very well put but is at a complete tangent to what I am saying (and I have to ask if you are intentionally evading the issue) - namely, that I would expect someone to experience a sense of growth between the ages of 15 and 21, indeed moreso at that age than at some later age. You can attempt to inflate the issue beyond that point if you want, but you're on your own in that regard.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My point here is that life is to short to worry about how I come across to people. That doesn't prevent me from discussing something with my full abilities - the two are not necessarily connected. Not everyone is worried about their perceived image, you know.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not always, no. I'll be the judge of that - and right here, right now, it doesn't matter one little bit.</p><p></p><p>As for Eragon, I would expect that Paolini's writing would improve over time. In ten years time he might well look back on Eragon (or Eldest, or Elfpants or whatever part three is called) and recognise his work for the derivative, immature drivel that it is. And then go on to produce work of originality and merit. And I'd applaud him for doing so. Because as an observer of his creative efforts, it is my right to do so. Just as I am happy to speak my mind frankly and freely on the internet and be critiqued, ignored or appreciated, so should Paolini be prepared to publish his work and take whatever comes his way. Such is life. It is naieve to expect anything less.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Hope, post: 3112707, member: 27051"] The results are the degree and type of personal appreciation that the work evokes in me. Nothing more. Nothing less. You really need to understand this about my position. The value and merit of art is subjective in my opinion. That's all there is to it. I'm not going to bandy semantics with you. I don't agree with you that art has any kind of objective value that derives from it being a piece of creative work. Whether you choose to call that merit, quality or whatever, I see it as wholly subjective. (The only objective elements are technical: Is this harmony in key? Is this brush stroke unintentionally blurred? Is this sentence ungrammatical? The rest is in the eye of the beholder). We can go round and round on this if you like, but it won't get you anywhere as far as I am concerned. None of this addresses my point in the slightest. It's all very well put but is at a complete tangent to what I am saying (and I have to ask if you are intentionally evading the issue) - namely, that I would expect someone to experience a sense of growth between the ages of 15 and 21, indeed moreso at that age than at some later age. You can attempt to inflate the issue beyond that point if you want, but you're on your own in that regard. My point here is that life is to short to worry about how I come across to people. That doesn't prevent me from discussing something with my full abilities - the two are not necessarily connected. Not everyone is worried about their perceived image, you know. Not always, no. I'll be the judge of that - and right here, right now, it doesn't matter one little bit. As for Eragon, I would expect that Paolini's writing would improve over time. In ten years time he might well look back on Eragon (or Eldest, or Elfpants or whatever part three is called) and recognise his work for the derivative, immature drivel that it is. And then go on to produce work of originality and merit. And I'd applaud him for doing so. Because as an observer of his creative efforts, it is my right to do so. Just as I am happy to speak my mind frankly and freely on the internet and be critiqued, ignored or appreciated, so should Paolini be prepared to publish his work and take whatever comes his way. Such is life. It is naieve to expect anything less. [/QUOTE]
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