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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3121444" data-attributes="member: 10397">I dont see how you can think or say this. Last time I looked writing a book required a good deal of both. And even if it were possible to write a book without thought and effort...and I dont see how it could be...without being there when its written, how can you know for sure?Of course your going to say by the "quality" of it, but quality is subjective. Effort is not. thats my point. You can know with more or less unshakeble certainty that a published book had thought and effort put into it, and therefore has basic value for that reason. Anything beyond that is entirely a matter of opinion. If its released to an audience of any size, there will be people who will enjoy it. Now yea if it never sees the light of day, or is only ever read or seen by 4 or 5 people, maybe none of them will enjoy it, but a work that gets published/shown in theatres etc etc is going to be enjoyed by substantial numbers of people.  As also noted above, it isnt. Its one you apparently find distasteful, or that some experience(s) of yours has thrown into doubt, but that doesnt change its truth. Yea it does. Because my post is my thoughts, and my thoughts are me. Same with creative works, nine times out of ten.And as an aside, beside the fact that I disagree with DEGRADING both a work itself, and the fact that it also degrades its creator by extension, theres the additonal fact that usualy such a stance also includes degrading anyone who likes/enjoys the work or feels its worthwhile, or at least degrading their "taste" and/or maturity and/or intelligence. This varies, and I havent seen it as much with you, but several others have essentially said not only are certain works indisputably worthless because they dont fit certain criteria, but anyone who likes them anyway is guilty of some mental or obersvational deficiency.On a side note, I'm actually reading Eragon as we speak...about 40 pages in. So far I'm enjoying it thoroughly, and I find the command of language and structuring to be very good. There are obvious parallels and influences from Star Wars, but it doesnt appear to be the same story thus far, anymore than Star Wars is the same story as King Arthur...its just using the same structure. Thats the only thing I've found so far that could be seen as objectively negative...its a bit derivative...but I dont neccesarily even count that as a negative since the vast majority of fiction is at least somewhat derivative. There are only so many plots, and most characters are archtypal in nature.</blockquote>

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