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<blockquote data-quote="Herpes Cineplex" data-source="post: 1635925" data-attributes="member: 16936"><p>Well, look at it from the perspective of the two less-than-enthused players: one of their characters has a GODDAMN EYE ON HIS HAND, and the other has A TENTACLE INSTEAD OF AN ARM.</p><p></p><p>In other words, in most settings, they are terrifying and hideous freaks. Is that what they signed up for? Is this the kind of thing which is common enough in the gameworld that they wouldn't feel out of place having it happen to their characters?</p><p></p><p>I'm going to guess that the answer to both of those questions is "no, not really." And that's probably where the dissatisfaction starts; if they were thinking about how they were going to be playing cool adventurers, now they have to adjust to playing I-Palm and the Octopus Man. It's jarring, it's weird, and it strays into an area of character revision which is generally regarded as off-limits for GMs: sort of like if you were playing a wizard and then your GM made a roll behind the screen and told you that, oops, you just lost a level of Wizard but gained a level as a Monk. I mean, what if you didn't want to play a monk?</p><p></p><p>There are some things the GM should probably ask the player about before actually doing them. Surprises can be fun, but one of the big things most players will agree on is that they get attached to their character, so it can be pretty dangerous to screw around too much with that without making sure the player's not going to pitch a fit over it.</p><p></p><p>Also, there's probably a little resentment over the fact that Laserhead got the best deal of the three; he gets to look normal AND he gets a nice little hidden weapon with a not-particularly-serious drawback. All the other guys got were a bonus feat and a guaranteed job at the local freak show, if they want it.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>besides, no one complains about getting magic items as a reward, anyway</p><p>ryan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herpes Cineplex, post: 1635925, member: 16936"] Well, look at it from the perspective of the two less-than-enthused players: one of their characters has a GODDAMN EYE ON HIS HAND, and the other has A TENTACLE INSTEAD OF AN ARM. In other words, in most settings, they are terrifying and hideous freaks. Is that what they signed up for? Is this the kind of thing which is common enough in the gameworld that they wouldn't feel out of place having it happen to their characters? I'm going to guess that the answer to both of those questions is "no, not really." And that's probably where the dissatisfaction starts; if they were thinking about how they were going to be playing cool adventurers, now they have to adjust to playing I-Palm and the Octopus Man. It's jarring, it's weird, and it strays into an area of character revision which is generally regarded as off-limits for GMs: sort of like if you were playing a wizard and then your GM made a roll behind the screen and told you that, oops, you just lost a level of Wizard but gained a level as a Monk. I mean, what if you didn't want to play a monk? There are some things the GM should probably ask the player about before actually doing them. Surprises can be fun, but one of the big things most players will agree on is that they get attached to their character, so it can be pretty dangerous to screw around too much with that without making sure the player's not going to pitch a fit over it. Also, there's probably a little resentment over the fact that Laserhead got the best deal of the three; he gets to look normal AND he gets a nice little hidden weapon with a not-particularly-serious drawback. All the other guys got were a bonus feat and a guaranteed job at the local freak show, if they want it. -- besides, no one complains about getting magic items as a reward, anyway ryan [/QUOTE]
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