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<blockquote data-quote="HardcoreDandDGirl" data-source="post: 6470463" data-attributes="member: 82746"><p>maybe you don't understand what racist means...</p><p></p><p>so by beliving that one race has superior honor you are racist...</p><p></p><p>I would go so far as to say it may not be the worst thing, but yu get to worse so lets keep going.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I will respectfully disagree...</p><p></p><p> </p><p>well I don't agree with everything here I was with you at least in theory... until</p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/cry.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":.-(" title="Cry :.-(" data-shortname=":.-(" /></p><p></p><p>what?!?!?! why do you care what color an extra or two are? I may not have read the book in 10 years but I bet it never said "Everyone is white" in fact I bet a lot of people read books and just assume an intermixed batch of extras... I would say more but we have not yet gotten to my big WTF moment.</p><p></p><p></p><p> everything I saw and heard was positive saying how refreshing it was to be inclusive...</p><p></p><p> </p><p>I firmly disagree it is much more now... more inclusive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>you almost got back to a good moment here... then came this bombshell...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>sexist is the word that comes to mind... Can a knight save a damsel, yes then can. we have hundreds of stories of it through out time. But why can't I (Disclaimer I am a woman) save the damsel, or even better, the hunky guy?</p><p></p><p>I find it hard to find positive heroic female lead characters. EVEN TODAY it is a nich within fantasy... so before you blow some "OMG IT ISN'T FANTASY, LOOK WHAT WE LOST" remember no one is taking your knight or your damsel from you... we just want our stories too. and when you have xxx pages to do it in, we need both...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>the only reason the DMG isn't racist about it is because it DOES include the KNIGHTS idea... infact AsoIaF could very well use an honor stat (Eddard has a 16, Jamie a 9 but boosts it in play, and little finger has a -3)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardcoreDandDGirl, post: 6470463, member: 82746"] maybe you don't understand what racist means... so by beliving that one race has superior honor you are racist... I would go so far as to say it may not be the worst thing, but yu get to worse so lets keep going. I will respectfully disagree... well I don't agree with everything here I was with you at least in theory... until :confused::erm::uhoh::(:.-( what?!?!?! why do you care what color an extra or two are? I may not have read the book in 10 years but I bet it never said "Everyone is white" in fact I bet a lot of people read books and just assume an intermixed batch of extras... I would say more but we have not yet gotten to my big WTF moment. everything I saw and heard was positive saying how refreshing it was to be inclusive... I firmly disagree it is much more now... more inclusive. you almost got back to a good moment here... then came this bombshell... sexist is the word that comes to mind... Can a knight save a damsel, yes then can. we have hundreds of stories of it through out time. But why can't I (Disclaimer I am a woman) save the damsel, or even better, the hunky guy? I find it hard to find positive heroic female lead characters. EVEN TODAY it is a nich within fantasy... so before you blow some "OMG IT ISN'T FANTASY, LOOK WHAT WE LOST" remember no one is taking your knight or your damsel from you... we just want our stories too. and when you have xxx pages to do it in, we need both... the only reason the DMG isn't racist about it is because it DOES include the KNIGHTS idea... infact AsoIaF could very well use an honor stat (Eddard has a 16, Jamie a 9 but boosts it in play, and little finger has a -3) [/QUOTE]
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