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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 2359007" data-attributes="member: 141">I think it was this thread that brought the idea for "<a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=137548" target="_blank">Painful Healing</a>" spells to the surface.  Characters using snake bites to heal people seems to lead naturally to a cure spell that does initial damage, but ends up curing a lot more than a cure wounds spell of the same level.The mechanic for one line of the "painful healing" family of spells is that the spell does 1d8 damage/spell level initially, then acts like an extended vigor spell.  Painful healing could be a source of custom spells for the hooded healer, and may require a snake as a focus; the snake has to bite the person who is being healed.  The initial effect of the venom is to hurt the recipient, but it ends up having a beneficial effect.  (20 rounds + 2 rounds/level of fast healing 1 for a first level spell; well worth the 1d8 initial damage... unless you are in combat, or at -9 hp, that is.)</blockquote>