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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5790485" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>They don't have to all instantly vanish. That's hyperbole. All that has to happen is a significant percentage have to vanish and the resulting loss is not made up for by selling more PHB's, which is the major argument in favor of the OGL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Could you please point them out to me? Because, I'm certainly not seeing them. All I see are a few vague suggestions that if we make it OGL, the resulting losses from DDI income will be covered by increases in book sales.</p><p></p><p>Look, I'm more than willing to entertain the possibility that I'm wrong here. I would LOVE someone to show me why I'm wrong. But, no one has yet provided anything of the sort. Why wouldn't free tools pull subscribers? Because the DDI tools are just that good? Really?</p><p></p><p>With all the bitching and moaning about the tools, do you really think so?</p><p></p><p>The DDI is not content support. At least not primarily. The primary functions are the Compendium and the Character builder. Dungeon and Dragon are nice, but, they're not why people subscribe. Since both the Compedium and the CB are not content driven, but rules driven, an OGL 5e DDI could be fairly easily reproduced as free tools. We've seen that already for 3e and we saw it happen for 4e. </p><p></p><p>The only reason that Emma's doesn't have a 4e CB is because <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/249918-emas-rpg-sheet-website-down.html" target="_blank">WOTC exercised their rights and shut them down.</a> And look at the flak they took for taking a purely legal, and completely justifiable action. In an OGL game, they couldn't even do that.</p><p></p><p>So, again, and please, short words because I'm apparently just not getting it, how can you have a rules based DDI and an OGL without losing significant numbers of subscribers to free options made legal by an OGL?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5790485, member: 22779"] They don't have to all instantly vanish. That's hyperbole. All that has to happen is a significant percentage have to vanish and the resulting loss is not made up for by selling more PHB's, which is the major argument in favor of the OGL. Could you please point them out to me? Because, I'm certainly not seeing them. All I see are a few vague suggestions that if we make it OGL, the resulting losses from DDI income will be covered by increases in book sales. Look, I'm more than willing to entertain the possibility that I'm wrong here. I would LOVE someone to show me why I'm wrong. But, no one has yet provided anything of the sort. Why wouldn't free tools pull subscribers? Because the DDI tools are just that good? Really? With all the bitching and moaning about the tools, do you really think so? The DDI is not content support. At least not primarily. The primary functions are the Compendium and the Character builder. Dungeon and Dragon are nice, but, they're not why people subscribe. Since both the Compedium and the CB are not content driven, but rules driven, an OGL 5e DDI could be fairly easily reproduced as free tools. We've seen that already for 3e and we saw it happen for 4e. The only reason that Emma's doesn't have a 4e CB is because [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/249918-emas-rpg-sheet-website-down.html]WOTC exercised their rights and shut them down.[/url] And look at the flak they took for taking a purely legal, and completely justifiable action. In an OGL game, they couldn't even do that. So, again, and please, short words because I'm apparently just not getting it, how can you have a rules based DDI and an OGL without losing significant numbers of subscribers to free options made legal by an OGL? [/QUOTE]
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