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<blockquote data-quote="The Halfling" data-source="post: 5790656" data-attributes="member: 349">I'd rather see a looser GSL, than see WotC go the fool's route and embrace the OGL again.The OGL cost WotC 2 game systems....completely. D&amp;D and d20 Modern. i see the comment that Mutants and Masterminds didn't hurt WotC's sales of D&amp;D, but it did. Does anyone remember WotC's announcement for a d20 Supers game? Killed. Sales that never materialized because there existed a product that used their same system and was a market leader in that genre. d20 Modern...subsumed by the more focused Spycraft.WotC, or any company actually, has no moral compulsion to offer up its system for free. This is not a morality play. WotC has ethical standards to maintain, but has no other obligation to the community at large. In fact, this self created issue that plagues WotC probably serves as a warning to other major publishers to NOT to go this route. Where are White Wolf, Games Workshop, Steve Jackson Games, ICE, Hero Games, etc. in this moral conundrum? Paizo is OGL b/c they have to be. No other &quot;major&quot; publisher has touched it with a 10 meter cattle prod. The best stuff that 3pp gave out of the OGL, wasn't the rules. Most of that was crap. The best stuff was the campaign worlds and adventures. Scarred Lands, Ptolus, Freeport, Kalamar, Goodman Games&nbsp; Known World ...that is what made 3e. All the good things could have still been done with the GSL had WotC been punctual and a tad less restrictive. I look at Paizo's AP's and I see adventures that could have been pulled off better with the 4e ruleset. I say that because 4e really needed a company like Paizo to breathe life into the newborn 4e ruleset. Over the years of DM'ing I have grown to dislike the 3e ruleset, but I will give props to Paizo for production value and storylines. 4e needed a soul from the onset, and even as a 4e lover, it was missing that for a few years.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Halfling, post: 5790656, member: 349"] I'd rather see a looser GSL, than see WotC go the fool's route and embrace the OGL again. The OGL cost WotC 2 game systems....completely. D&D and d20 Modern. i see the comment that Mutants and Masterminds didn't hurt WotC's sales of D&D, but it did. Does anyone remember WotC's announcement for a d20 Supers game? Killed. Sales that never materialized because there existed a product that used their same system and was a market leader in that genre. d20 Modern...subsumed by the more focused Spycraft. WotC, or any company actually, has no moral compulsion to offer up its system for free. This is not a morality play. WotC has ethical standards to maintain, but has no other obligation to the community at large. In fact, this self created issue that plagues WotC probably serves as a warning to other major publishers to NOT to go this route. Where are White Wolf, Games Workshop, Steve Jackson Games, ICE, Hero Games, etc. in this moral conundrum? Paizo is OGL b/c they have to be. No other "major" publisher has touched it with a 10 meter cattle prod. The best stuff that 3pp gave out of the OGL, wasn't the rules. Most of that was crap. The best stuff was the campaign worlds and adventures. Scarred Lands, Ptolus, Freeport, Kalamar, Goodman Games Known World ...that is what made 3e. All the good things could have still been done with the GSL had WotC been punctual and a tad less restrictive. I look at Paizo's AP's and I see adventures that could have been pulled off better with the 4e ruleset. I say that because 4e really needed a company like Paizo to breathe life into the newborn 4e ruleset. Over the years of DM'ing I have grown to dislike the 3e ruleset, but I will give props to Paizo for production value and storylines. 4e needed a soul from the onset, and even as a 4e lover, it was missing that for a few years. [/QUOTE]

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