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<blockquote data-quote="Remus Lupin" data-source="post: 5816847" data-attributes="member: 12760"><p>[MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION], I'm not sure why the subtly of this argument escapes you. I haven't seen anyone arguing, at least not without some serious qualification, that the OGL was "responsible" for the success of 3rd Edition, or that the DDI was not successful on its own terms. Rather, the argument as I've been reading it is that 1) the OGL contributed to the success of 3rd edition in numerous ways, but wasn't certainly solely responsible for its success, and that 2) the success of the DDI does not in itself demonstrate an increase in readership for Dungeon & Dragon because the bundling undermines the ability to make an apples-to-apples comparison between the two.</p><p></p><p>It's possible to say that the DDI has been successful on its own terms for what it does what not acknowledging that it represents a successful continuation of the Dungeon and Dragon magazine lines (which several readers think have suffered under the transition -- I can't say because I don't subscribe, being one of the ones they lost)</p><p></p><p>It's also possible to say that 3rd edition was successful on its own terms for lots of reasons, while also saying that the OGL was a contributing factor to that, and could be a contributing factor to the success of a new edition, particularly as it will bring back many of us (like myself) who were enthusiastic about the OGL and would like to see it return.</p><p></p><p>It's not make or break of course. Just as the OGL was only one contributing factor to the success of 3rd edition, it would be only one contributing factor to the success of 5th edition. Much will depend on the strength of the rules, the quality of the products, the willingness of Pathfinder players to go back to D&D now that they've got a new game, the willingness of 4th edition players to switch over again to a new edition so soon after the release of 4th edition, etc. </p><p></p><p>What the OGL may do, in my estimation, is give many fans back something that I think they lost in the 4th edition transition -- a sense that once again this is their game, not a property that they're just borrowing from WOTC for a few hours a week.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remus Lupin, post: 5816847, member: 12760"] [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION], I'm not sure why the subtly of this argument escapes you. I haven't seen anyone arguing, at least not without some serious qualification, that the OGL was "responsible" for the success of 3rd Edition, or that the DDI was not successful on its own terms. Rather, the argument as I've been reading it is that 1) the OGL contributed to the success of 3rd edition in numerous ways, but wasn't certainly solely responsible for its success, and that 2) the success of the DDI does not in itself demonstrate an increase in readership for Dungeon & Dragon because the bundling undermines the ability to make an apples-to-apples comparison between the two. It's possible to say that the DDI has been successful on its own terms for what it does what not acknowledging that it represents a successful continuation of the Dungeon and Dragon magazine lines (which several readers think have suffered under the transition -- I can't say because I don't subscribe, being one of the ones they lost) It's also possible to say that 3rd edition was successful on its own terms for lots of reasons, while also saying that the OGL was a contributing factor to that, and could be a contributing factor to the success of a new edition, particularly as it will bring back many of us (like myself) who were enthusiastic about the OGL and would like to see it return. It's not make or break of course. Just as the OGL was only one contributing factor to the success of 3rd edition, it would be only one contributing factor to the success of 5th edition. Much will depend on the strength of the rules, the quality of the products, the willingness of Pathfinder players to go back to D&D now that they've got a new game, the willingness of 4th edition players to switch over again to a new edition so soon after the release of 4th edition, etc. What the OGL may do, in my estimation, is give many fans back something that I think they lost in the 4th edition transition -- a sense that once again this is their game, not a property that they're just borrowing from WOTC for a few hours a week. [/QUOTE]
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