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<blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 5817409" data-attributes="member: 1129"><p>I think Hussar is right in that there can be a 'chilling' factor.</p><p></p><p>The OGL has, or should have, a 'skaff' effect on the core books.</p><p></p><p>Problem seems to be that WoTC wants everything to be core and wants every book to be bought and every book to be a sourcebook that is vital to the table.</p><p></p><p>This 'theory' was heavily put to the test in 4th edition with the deliberate split of certain 'core' monsters into the MM2 and certain classes and races into the PHB2.</p><p></p><p>But in terms of failure, if the OGL is responsible for the failure of 3rd ed if we consider 3.5 the fail point, how does that stack up with 5th edition being announced right after a huge line relaunch via Essentials? I know some are going to say it's not a .5 edition but lets look at it this way.... are you ever going to get an errata'd Player's Handbook for 4th edition? The answer is no. The Essentials books replaced the core 3 and that's pretty much a fair definition of a .5/revised/revisited/etc... rulebook in my eyes.</p><p></p><p>And all the while Pathfinder, who embraces the OGL and does what they do well, continue to move on and according to various sites, seem to sell more books.</p><p></p><p>Like others, I don't think an open GSL will be a substitute for WoTC doing the work. Paizo not only has the OGL but have embraced 3rd party publishers in a way that WoTC never did. From what I could tell, with a few exceptions, WoTC attitude was, "Do as thou will." They had some 'cool' moments like letting Goodman published their Beholder book and Paradigm their Mind Flayer book and letting the licenses out for Ravenloft, Gamma World, and Dragonlance but in terms of actually interacting with the OGL and 3rd party? One book that used some of the OGL (incorrectly I believe too) in one of the Monster Manuals, and one book of OGL content (some of it snipped from Chaosium ironically enough.)</p><p></p><p>My bet, as I've mentioned elswhere, is that Paizo is a gaming company and WoTC's D&D is a property for a coproration. The latter will not let them act like the former.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoeGKushner, post: 5817409, member: 1129"] I think Hussar is right in that there can be a 'chilling' factor. The OGL has, or should have, a 'skaff' effect on the core books. Problem seems to be that WoTC wants everything to be core and wants every book to be bought and every book to be a sourcebook that is vital to the table. This 'theory' was heavily put to the test in 4th edition with the deliberate split of certain 'core' monsters into the MM2 and certain classes and races into the PHB2. But in terms of failure, if the OGL is responsible for the failure of 3rd ed if we consider 3.5 the fail point, how does that stack up with 5th edition being announced right after a huge line relaunch via Essentials? I know some are going to say it's not a .5 edition but lets look at it this way.... are you ever going to get an errata'd Player's Handbook for 4th edition? The answer is no. The Essentials books replaced the core 3 and that's pretty much a fair definition of a .5/revised/revisited/etc... rulebook in my eyes. And all the while Pathfinder, who embraces the OGL and does what they do well, continue to move on and according to various sites, seem to sell more books. Like others, I don't think an open GSL will be a substitute for WoTC doing the work. Paizo not only has the OGL but have embraced 3rd party publishers in a way that WoTC never did. From what I could tell, with a few exceptions, WoTC attitude was, "Do as thou will." They had some 'cool' moments like letting Goodman published their Beholder book and Paradigm their Mind Flayer book and letting the licenses out for Ravenloft, Gamma World, and Dragonlance but in terms of actually interacting with the OGL and 3rd party? One book that used some of the OGL (incorrectly I believe too) in one of the Monster Manuals, and one book of OGL content (some of it snipped from Chaosium ironically enough.) My bet, as I've mentioned elswhere, is that Paizo is a gaming company and WoTC's D&D is a property for a coproration. The latter will not let them act like the former. [/QUOTE]
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