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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 5961615" data-attributes="member: 7635">This gets bandied about alot, but I can't think of too many examples of it. I have found a few examples of "Realms origin" stuff appearing in generic 2e stuff (the examples that I can think off are wild mages in Tome of Magic, crusader, monk, and shaman classes in Spells and Magic, and Saurials in Complete Humanoid's Handbook). There were some references to world specific subraces in the various racial handbooks, but they had just as many Krynn references in those as Toril ones. Once WotC bought TSR, I saw FAR MORE Greyhawk references than Realms ones. I guess you can say that moving Kara Tur, Al-Quadim and Mazitca to the same world counts, but that seemed more like a ploy to get Realms players to buy three settings that didn't have much standing strength on their own. What I think makes most people think of Realms as the "default" 2e setting was the novels and computer games. There were no "generic" D&D novels, so the most generic often were the Realms ones. Likewise, Realms was used for a huge amount of Gold-box games, Neverwinter Nights (both versions), and the Baldur's Gate/Infinity Engine games. While there were some non-Realms games, it was usually another setting (Ravenloft, Planescape, or Dark Sun). Beyond that, and a couple of cross-references in Planescape, Ravenloft, or Spelljammer, Realms stuff seemed pretty centered on the Realms. It was probably their biggest, and most prolific setting (and hence why so much of their stuff seemed to feel like it was generic) but 2e had few overt Realms references beyond its line. It certainly felt larger than its GH references (or Mystara, or Birthright, or any other setting that was "generic" fantasy) but if 2e was intended to be "default Realms" it didn't do a good job of dovetailing in..EDIT: A thought. Dragon accepted an inordinate amount of Realms-dressed articles. Perhaps the fact that much of Dragon Mag had Realm-themed stuff has lead to this?</blockquote>

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