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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8959486" data-attributes="member: 20564">Sure.&nbsp; And when it comes to being a striker, the +1 to hit and +1 to damage for every attack all day every combat beats +ZERO to hit, +1d6 to damage against opponents in some combats, where you are also losing attacks every time you need to switch who it targets.Come on, don't use hyperbole, discuss this fairly.&nbsp; You're in combat. You have a free bonus attack, and several bonus attack features. And enough movement to get up to an enemy. Monks have a very active bonus action economy.Sorry, it was a typo.&nbsp; You compared to 1d10+mod, which is a 2H reach weapon, but you never mentioned reach.&nbsp; I was trying to correct to 2d6+mod (greatsword) or 1d8+mod AND +2 AC (1H weapon and shield).&nbsp; But I wrote 2d4 instead.&nbsp; My mistake.The point is that when you have say 4 Ki for an entire day, pointing out that 1 Ki for Flurry of Blows gives you an extra 1d4+mod damage does not move you into Striker zone.Not sure how you mean this.&nbsp; We were talking about the bonus damage Flurry of Blows brings over your default bonus action attack.&nbsp; 1d4+mod damage on a hit 1-4 times per day is absolutely less damage than a like level barbarian who has +2 melee damage for 2-3 combats a day.&nbsp; It's not close, at low levels the barbarian's consumable special ability of rage adds far more damage than a monk's consumable special ability of Ki to power Flurry of Blows.I'm confused by this statement.&nbsp; &quot;The monk is not built as a striker, and here's the numbers that show it&quot; is a true statement.&nbsp; Yes, that's based on the execution of the class.&nbsp; Which is more true than just trying to apply a label like striker to it.Really, the execution of the class -- what it actually does -- defines what type of class it is.&nbsp; Which is nothing more than a label that describes it's execution&nbsp; Not only is it not irrelevant, it is the most relevant thing.Please, tell me about how a class actually plays is irrelevant to a descriptive label for how the class plays.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 8959486, member: 20564"] Sure. And when it comes to being a striker, the +1 to hit and +1 to damage for every attack all day every combat beats +ZERO to hit, +1d6 to damage against opponents in some combats, where you are also losing attacks every time you need to switch who it targets. Come on, don't use hyperbole, discuss this fairly. You're in combat. You have a free bonus attack, and several bonus attack features. And enough movement to get up to an enemy. Monks have a very active bonus action economy. Sorry, it was a typo. You compared to 1d10+mod, which is a 2H reach weapon, but you never mentioned reach. I was trying to correct to 2d6+mod (greatsword) or 1d8+mod AND +2 AC (1H weapon and shield). But I wrote 2d4 instead. My mistake. The point is that when you have say 4 Ki for an entire day, pointing out that 1 Ki for Flurry of Blows gives you an extra 1d4+mod damage does not move you into Striker zone. Not sure how you mean this. We were talking about the bonus damage Flurry of Blows brings over your default bonus action attack. 1d4+mod damage on a hit 1-4 times per day is absolutely less damage than a like level barbarian who has +2 melee damage for 2-3 combats a day. It's not close, at low levels the barbarian's consumable special ability of rage adds far more damage than a monk's consumable special ability of Ki to power Flurry of Blows. I'm confused by this statement. "The monk is not built as a striker, and here's the numbers that show it" is a true statement. Yes, that's based on the execution of the class. Which is more true than just trying to apply a label like striker to it. Really, the execution of the class -- what it actually does -- defines what type of class it is. Which is nothing more than a label that describes it's execution [B]Not only is it not irrelevant, it is the most relevant thing.[/B] Please, tell me about how a class actually plays is irrelevant to a descriptive label for how the class plays. [/QUOTE]

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