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<blockquote data-quote="shadowoflameth" data-source="post: 8988345" data-attributes="member: 62336">The names of things are not the problem. Monk is a good thematic name and distinct from the cleric. I'm not clear on the objection to Ki or Chi which are referenced often in literature and in Martial Arts which the Monk centers around. For me, Give the Monk a fighting style at 1st. Unarmed would fix the weakness most see in damage output. Drop the Ki point requirement for things that don't warrant it, Step of the Wind and Careful Defense don't need it. Stunning Strike is strong but it often doesn't work. Most Monks don't have a high Save DC on it because of MAD. WotC should stop it with the poorly made and weak sub classes. Stunning Strike is not a valid justification for offering useless options.All three PHB sub-classes need help and so do all of the others in later books. The Open Hand is arguably the strongest but there is nothing in it, or any other 5e Monk that can't be done better with a fighter especially if feats are in except Stunning strike. At 3rd level and beyond, players discover that there simply are no strong sub-class choices and that most options give the character things that are sub-par compared to what the Monk can already do. 4 Elements is the worst in the PHB (maybe in the game) in this regard and it needs a lot more help than just lowering the Ki cost.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shadowoflameth, post: 8988345, member: 62336"] The names of things are not the problem. Monk is a good thematic name and distinct from the cleric. I'm not clear on the objection to Ki or Chi which are referenced often in literature and in Martial Arts which the Monk centers around. For me, Give the Monk a fighting style at 1st. Unarmed would fix the weakness most see in damage output. Drop the Ki point requirement for things that don't warrant it, Step of the Wind and Careful Defense don't need it. Stunning Strike is strong but it often doesn't work. Most Monks don't have a high Save DC on it because of MAD. WotC should stop it with the poorly made and weak sub classes. Stunning Strike is not a valid justification for offering useless options. All three PHB sub-classes need help and so do all of the others in later books. The Open Hand is arguably the strongest but there is nothing in it, or any other 5e Monk that can't be done better with a fighter especially if feats are in except Stunning strike. At 3rd level and beyond, players discover that there simply are no strong sub-class choices and that most options give the character things that are sub-par compared to what the Monk can already do. 4 Elements is the worst in the PHB (maybe in the game) in this regard and it needs a lot more help than just lowering the Ki cost. [/QUOTE]

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