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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2858951" data-attributes="member: 11697">Of course, you do realize that as you type this stuff, and I read it, we're doing a pretty good impression of Pavlov and a drooling dog respectively.Context aside, I'm not surprised I suppose since the inner planes were already widely rumored to have been there before the outer planes, with the latter either just not existing prior to the prime, or existing in a much less defined, and likely immaterial state before they solidified with mortal belief.At least that's how I've interpereted it myself in my campaigns, though I've been partial to the notion that the abstract beings referenced by the Baernaloth legends might themselves exist outside of the Great Wheel in some fashion, and the heralds of those alignments might not so much have been formed out of the raw stuff of the forming planes of the Great Wheel, but sent there from 'outside'. I've also been partial to the idea that when the outer planes of the Wheel first formed, Sigil was already there waiting for them with its Bladed Queen a mystery even then.But regardless of the way I've gone with planar proto-history in my stories and campaign, I'm curious to see where exactly you took this. If there are ideas that tempt me, I'll shameless adapt them if they fit. Yummy stuff.*fiendgasm*There, as much as I've objected to the archfiend CR issue on the other thread, you've likewise earned some praise on the fluff here. <img src="http://arcanofox.foxpaws.net/shemmysmile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /> Drat. Oh well. I've already tossed his name out in my own campaign regardless, in the context of having some vague relation to Pale Night (whose own exact nature has been something lurking in the background for the last four years of two campaigns now). The way James described Dweirgus was just nifty enough to really put some hooks into me, so regardless of any other stuff on him forthcoming, I'll probably go my own way with him. Unless of course you guys are open to an article pitch. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Eventually I hope to actually get something in with you guys. *cough* But anyways, thanks for the answers Erik, I really appreciate it.</blockquote>

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