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<blockquote data-quote="Mr.Black" data-source="post: 2860177" data-attributes="member: 29118"><p>Impressive! It looks like we have a variety of demons to terrorize at all levels. I particularly like the revised CRs.</p><p></p><p>Alkilith I thought looks like more of a CR 8. It only has 82 hp and weak physical attacks, although its' enveration at will and teleport can make it a nasty long ranged monster. It also has the chance to summon a Hezrou. Blasphemy for everyone! </p><p></p><p>Jarilith stays at CR 13. I think it should have been dropped to a CR 12 with its limited variety of attacks, but it's still a good CR. </p><p></p><p>Jovoc stay at CR 5. I think it could be CR 3 or 4. It deals very little damage. However, masses of these guys at higher levels can be interesting. </p><p></p><p>The 20hd Maurezhi...whoa! While it has an average of 108 hp (128 with improved toughness) this thing has a +29 with it's bite and a +27 with its claws. It also has a 30 AC. Pretty good for CR 10! </p><p></p><p>Wastrilith is another terror at CR 11. Blasphemy at 15 level is pretty scary and so is its' ability to summon Elder Elementals (and dispel any Protection from Evil spells on the PCs). </p><p></p><p>Myrxmicus makes an acceptable CR 18, although I'd have to see it in action. </p><p></p><p>Klurichir is THE toughest demon at CR 17. </p><p></p><p>Kelvezu at CR 14? That's a tough one. It really is a strange demon because it can deal so much damage but only has 90 hp and a +16 with its best attack. Still, it can wipe out a 14th level wizard before he even has a chance to go, which is probably its preferred tactic. I would have made it CR 13 due to its weaknesses but its equipment is so expensive that you can't really make its' CR lower because the PCs will get way too much stuff. </p><p></p><p>Any thoughts from the designers on the revision of the demon CRs? </p><p></p><p>BTW, where is the Deathdrinker from?</p><p></p><p>Overall, the vision of a demon horde is coming along nicely. I can see masses of Jovocs spearheaded by frenzied Bulezau or Murezhi. Vrocks use telekinesis from overhead to hurl a dozen weapons at a time from a distance, while arrow demons rain arrows onto the field.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mr.Black, post: 2860177, member: 29118"] Impressive! It looks like we have a variety of demons to terrorize at all levels. I particularly like the revised CRs. Alkilith I thought looks like more of a CR 8. It only has 82 hp and weak physical attacks, although its' enveration at will and teleport can make it a nasty long ranged monster. It also has the chance to summon a Hezrou. Blasphemy for everyone! Jarilith stays at CR 13. I think it should have been dropped to a CR 12 with its limited variety of attacks, but it's still a good CR. Jovoc stay at CR 5. I think it could be CR 3 or 4. It deals very little damage. However, masses of these guys at higher levels can be interesting. The 20hd Maurezhi...whoa! While it has an average of 108 hp (128 with improved toughness) this thing has a +29 with it's bite and a +27 with its claws. It also has a 30 AC. Pretty good for CR 10! Wastrilith is another terror at CR 11. Blasphemy at 15 level is pretty scary and so is its' ability to summon Elder Elementals (and dispel any Protection from Evil spells on the PCs). Myrxmicus makes an acceptable CR 18, although I'd have to see it in action. Klurichir is THE toughest demon at CR 17. Kelvezu at CR 14? That's a tough one. It really is a strange demon because it can deal so much damage but only has 90 hp and a +16 with its best attack. Still, it can wipe out a 14th level wizard before he even has a chance to go, which is probably its preferred tactic. I would have made it CR 13 due to its weaknesses but its equipment is so expensive that you can't really make its' CR lower because the PCs will get way too much stuff. Any thoughts from the designers on the revision of the demon CRs? BTW, where is the Deathdrinker from? Overall, the vision of a demon horde is coming along nicely. I can see masses of Jovocs spearheaded by frenzied Bulezau or Murezhi. Vrocks use telekinesis from overhead to hurl a dozen weapons at a time from a distance, while arrow demons rain arrows onto the field. [/QUOTE]
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