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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Jacobs" data-source="post: 2889415" data-attributes="member: 23937">Keep in mind also that the stat blocks in Book of Vile Darkness were 3.0. Part of the 3.5 revision's purpose was to fix a lot of the high CR monster stat blocks; playtesting of high-level PCs wasn't quite as extensive as it was for mid or low level, and as a result, a lot of the high CR monsters in the 3.0 rules were underpowered. Check out the differences between the 3.0 and the 3.5 balor for an example.In building the 3.5 FC I stats, I followed the same logic; using the Monster Manual monsters' hp, AC, attacks, average damage, and saves as guidelines. As a result, the FC I incarnation of any given demon lord isn't that much weaker to the stats given in the Book of Vile Darkness, and, as Shade points out, in some cases they're actually tougher.</blockquote>