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<blockquote data-quote="M.L. Martin" data-source="post: 2904638" data-attributes="member: 4086">DL was never clear on its planar position until 3rd Edition, really; DL Adventures included a description of the 'godly' realms that was ambiguous, while the Manual of the Planes, published later that same year, explicitly integrated DL into the cosmology.&nbsp; Demogorgon showed up in the second DL story published, &quot;A Stone's Throw Away&quot;, albeit not by name, and Takhisis was intended to be Tiamat at some point during the design, although that faded out as the project progressed.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I say, declare them to be a Chemosh and Hiddukel that fled Krynn in the timeline when Raistlin killed the other gods, say Soth went to Ravenloft from that same timeline, and all's good.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; BTW, James, Erik, I've got a tidbit that must go into the 'Demogorgon in the Real World' sidebar when the Demonomicon gets around to him:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;There are two variants in the manuscripts [of Lactantius' commentaries on Statius' Thebaid, I believe]; one is demogorgona, the other demogorgon.&nbsp; From the latter of these corruptions, later ages evolved a completely new deity, Demogorgon, who was to enjoy a distinguished literary career in Boccaccio's Genealogy of the Gods, in Spenser, in Milton, and in Shelley.&nbsp; This is perhaps the only time a scribal blunder underwent an apotheosis.&quot;--C. S. Lewis, The Discarded Image, pp. 39-40, Cambridge University Press, Canto edition&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Matthew L. Martin</blockquote>

[QUOTE="M.L. Martin, post: 2904638, member: 4086"] DL was never clear on its planar position until 3rd Edition, really; DL Adventures included a description of the 'godly' realms that was ambiguous, while the Manual of the Planes, published later that same year, explicitly integrated DL into the cosmology. Demogorgon showed up in the second DL story published, "A Stone's Throw Away", albeit not by name, and Takhisis was intended to be Tiamat at some point during the design, although that faded out as the project progressed. I say, declare them to be a Chemosh and Hiddukel that fled Krynn in the timeline when Raistlin killed the other gods, say Soth went to Ravenloft from that same timeline, and all's good. :) BTW, James, Erik, I've got a tidbit that [b]must[/b] go into the 'Demogorgon in the Real World' sidebar when the [I]Demonomicon [/I] gets around to him: "There are two variants in the manuscripts [of Lactantius' commentaries on Statius' [I]Thebaid[/I], I believe]; one is [I]demogorgona[/I], the other [I]demogorgon[/I]. From the latter of these corruptions, later ages evolved a completely new deity, Demogorgon, who was to enjoy a distinguished literary career in Boccaccio's [I]Genealogy of the Gods[/I], in Spenser, in Milton, and in Shelley. This is perhaps the only time a scribal blunder underwent an apotheosis."--C. S. Lewis, [I] The Discarded Image[/I], pp. 39-40, Cambridge University Press, Canto edition ;) Matthew L. Martin [/QUOTE]

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