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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Razz" data-source="post: 2851341" data-attributes="member: 3014">I think I will keep the CR 25 for the klurichir. I mean, it has 9 attacks, improved grab with vorpal pincers and it isn't considered grappled (and no -20 penalty to the grapple either), tons of spell-like abilities AND casts spells as a 10th-level Sorceror that it can use to both buff up before the fight and lay out PCs during. Top that with the ability to summon two CR 20 balors, the 3.5 kinds too, we're talking 17th-level PC wipe out. Heh.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Forgot it's SR of 36, that's a 19 or higher to even get a spell on it for a 17th-level caster. Better hope that caster has Spell Penetration and Greater, which only drops it to 17 and 15 respectively. Still a 75% chance of spell failure against it.Plus it's description depicts it as a terrible demon that other demons fear or respect, a general of armies, which sounds to me like it's equal to a balor or should be stronger than one. As for the CR 18 myrmyxicus, heh, with 12 attacks (4 scythes, one at 4 attacks total, bite, tail, and 6 tentacles) along with its other abilities, CR 21 seems fit for me as well.</blockquote>