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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mirtek" data-source="post: 2855380" data-attributes="member: 40810">Like I said: I would not be so bad if they were at least at the top of the food chains. CR 28 doesn't sound like a "doom of the world creature" but if no other creature on this world has such a high CR it still works. What's really worse with the EEE was that they weren't even the highest CR creatures in their supplement. That's what I can not understand at all. If the designers say "Kezef has to be CR 24 because with a higher CR he would be useless for most campaigns" then that's OK, I might disagree but it's a fair reason that I can't understand.But if the very same supplement also has a CR 3X evil lich, then I just can't understand it. A Kezef with CR > 2X would be too powerfull for the PCs, but a lich with CR 3X is fine? If 3X is fine, then Kezef should have been 3X and this lich should have been 2X (wow, a 2,000 year old lichking *yawn* how impressive, considering that Kezef is merely a god hunting nightmare dog older than the world itself)And that's the problem with the demonlords. If a great gold wyrm is CR 26, a demonlord should at least be CR 26+.So if the demonlords are not too weak, the other creatures are too strong or the D&D multiverse just makes no sense at all.</blockquote>