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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2856955" data-attributes="member: 11697">This has gone in an interesting cycle I'll admit.We start with a flurry of kneejerk dislike, then move to a bunch of more detailed complaints/constructive criticism, and now we come to the period of nerd fights between various factions of complainers and butt kissing apologists.I'll give praise and do my own fair share of kissing ass, but I won't do so for things I can't honestly see much valid rationale for and which I seriously find a slew of flaws within at multiple levels of its conception. When I have the book and I'm having multiple fiendgasms over the fluff, the plot hooks, the details of various layers, believe me I'll give praise when praise is due. Christ, give it time and you'll see me go giddy over the stuff in the majority of the book I'm sure. But in the meantime, when the majority of what we have to chew on, as Rip made a nice analogy with, are CRs of archfiends that make the BoVD stats look like an improvement, of course I'll complain on topics that I feel warrant such criticism.</blockquote>