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<blockquote data-quote="Kunimatyu" data-source="post: 2858377" data-attributes="member: 22057">I kinda see both sides here.On the one hand, putting the demon lords where they can be fought by 20th level parties is a pretty good idea from a gameplay perspective. It allows the statblocks to be useful, as opposed to a Dicefreaks CR &quot;insane&quot; that pretty much just reiterates their unkillability. And killing a demon lord IS a pretty neat end to your average campaign.On the other hand, demon lords ARE incredibly powerful, and should not be on the same power level as a Balor, Pit Fiend, or Solar. If they have built-in ways to kick a balor's face in, then it's not so big a deal, but as long as a Balor can tear apart Jubilex, it's a little lame.Me, I'm going to use the statblocks as avatars, and either slap the Paragon template on the &quot;real&quot; fiend or simply have it statless. But I wish the statblocks in Hordes had been presented as avatars, and not as something a Solar could take down by itself.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kunimatyu, post: 2858377, member: 22057"] I kinda see both sides here. On the one hand, putting the demon lords where they can be fought by 20th level parties is a pretty good idea from a gameplay perspective. It allows the statblocks to be useful, as opposed to a Dicefreaks CR "insane" that pretty much just reiterates their unkillability. And killing a demon lord IS a pretty neat end to your average campaign. On the other hand, demon lords ARE incredibly powerful, and should not be on the same power level as a Balor, Pit Fiend, or Solar. If they have built-in ways to kick a balor's face in, then it's not so big a deal, but as long as a Balor can tear apart Jubilex, it's a little lame. Me, I'm going to use the statblocks as avatars, and either slap the Paragon template on the "real" fiend or simply have it statless. But I wish the statblocks in Hordes had been presented as avatars, and not as something a Solar could take down by itself. [/QUOTE]

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