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<blockquote data-quote="BronzeGolem" data-source="post: 2861671" data-attributes="member: 20902"><p>No, that's not a silly assumption at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For LE this makes sense, since Lawful Evil allows for the possibility of loyalty.</p><p></p><p>For Demons with lesser power (say, succubi and below), this makes sense.</p><p></p><p>But your "demon lord will just order their minions to put down a rebellion" just doesn't make sense otherwise. The only reason why they'd follow the demon lord in the first place is because it's powerful enough to compel them to either outright or by scaring them into it, and more powerful than other demon lords that might treat them even worse. If they don't think that the demon lord can quash all resistance on it's own, then the demons under it are likely to either hold back or switch sides if they think that the challenger is likely to win, because if they don't support the challenger, the challenger will then punish them for it.</p><p></p><p>Do you see either the raw power or deterrence necessary to create this kind of obedience from what you've seen so far on this thread? So far-although I haven't seen the full stats yet-I haven't.</p><p></p><p>Quite frankly, it sort of sounds like you'd wish that there was no flavor with demons or demon lords at all and you'd just rather have a bunch of stats and a physical description.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BronzeGolem, post: 2861671, member: 20902"] No, that's not a silly assumption at all. For LE this makes sense, since Lawful Evil allows for the possibility of loyalty. For Demons with lesser power (say, succubi and below), this makes sense. But your "demon lord will just order their minions to put down a rebellion" just doesn't make sense otherwise. The only reason why they'd follow the demon lord in the first place is because it's powerful enough to compel them to either outright or by scaring them into it, and more powerful than other demon lords that might treat them even worse. If they don't think that the demon lord can quash all resistance on it's own, then the demons under it are likely to either hold back or switch sides if they think that the challenger is likely to win, because if they don't support the challenger, the challenger will then punish them for it. Do you see either the raw power or deterrence necessary to create this kind of obedience from what you've seen so far on this thread? So far-although I haven't seen the full stats yet-I haven't. Quite frankly, it sort of sounds like you'd wish that there was no flavor with demons or demon lords at all and you'd just rather have a bunch of stats and a physical description. [/QUOTE]
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