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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mirtek" data-source="post: 2866632" data-attributes="member: 40810">And I think that claiming that these tools are anything new or special at all. Presenting them as a solution or even a selling point is bogus.Every single creature in every single book in 3.X was scaleable and could be advanced. The tools are in the PHD and MM. Claiming that these is some new special otions for the demonlords is just wrong, and the 1/3 page in FC1 just seems like a filler.See MM? Great, I would have never thought of that myself.How to calculate CR/SR/CL? Well, that's handy but also nothing that really justifies claiming to be something new to make scalebale demonlords, could be done just as well without this clues. Also these clues aren't really the best. 1 HD = 1 CR? Will quickly make them too weak for their CR. Same with the CL progressing. Making it 1 for every 2 HD doesn't make the abilities overpowered, it will make them useless, as they will quickly become unable to beat any SR at all (not even their own). +2 ability points for every 5 HD? Why? What about the +1 for every 4 HD that's standard in D&D and followed by every single creature? Seems a little like "hm, we just need annother point, any point" and also important: Is this supposed to replace the +1 every 4 HD or to be added on top on this?All in all: The demonlords are not in  the least more or less scaleable than any other D&D creature in any other D&D supplemt. A goblin in MM or Elminster in FRCS can be scaled just as well as these demonlords. It's no "new solution" to the CR argument it's just a hint toward something that is already there since the beginning and the try to make it look like something new created for this book</blockquote>

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