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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 2866636" data-attributes="member: 172">Then why all the teeth gnashing when you know you have total control over their power?Of course why has already been spelled out by Ari:You've decided that any set of stats in print represents some statement by the authors about the "normative definition" of the demon lords power. I can't help but feel that those who are fundamentally unhappy on this point are so because they are attaching their own significance here.I can't stop you from doing so. But I think it unwise to do so.Of course. Ignoring that the advancement notes go beyond the MM in discussing special abilities and raising ability. But you are missing a fundamental point here that I keep hammering on. Unlike most creatures in the MM, Demon lords are unique creatures. The mere existence of these rules should show that the base statistics should not be taken as an "officially endorsed sole power level" of the demon lords, as their power level is explicitly intented to be scaled to the GMs needs. The authors have further clarified that pegging the power of the demon lords was not their intent. Yet you still insist that is what it represents.</blockquote>