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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2885510" data-attributes="member: 29014">I think the idea is to claim that the stats in the book represent an off-the-plane version of the entity involved though.  James has been kind enough to tell us that several times for the demon lords.That said--you needn't argue with me that the CR is too weak to make any sense, particularly with Baator.  I'm on your side (You may have seen my Juiblex vs Balor / Marilith analysis earlier upthread).As for the different teams, we know that James likes to write the CRs higher for the demonomicon articles higher than the ones in FC1, so it would seem that the decision for the CRs came from a level higher.  Admittedly, it is true that it is possible that the higher level is not involved with FC2, but I'd doubt it.  WotC is nothing if not consistent when they decide on new policies (like the new PrC format with the extra tidbits).</blockquote>