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<blockquote data-quote="Not a Hobbit" data-source="post: 7546024" data-attributes="member: 6836774">So I know that there are a lot of really smart people who can do the math for this, but is the Planer Warrior ability (3rd Level Horizon Walker Ranger) really balanced? I mean, I know it's in Xanathar's, so it has been tested and such, but...&nbsp;Here's what it says:&quot;As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of&nbsp; you. The next time you hit that creature on this turn with a weapon&nbsp; attack, all damage dealt by the attack becomes force damage, and the&nbsp; creature takes an extra 1d8 force damage from the attack. When you reach&nbsp; 11th level in this class, the extra damage increases to 2d8.&quot;It seems to me that this ability has 2x the damage of a Fighter with a longsword (1d8 v. 2d8 at 3rd level, 2d8 v. 4d8 at 5th-10th level, 3d8 v.6d8 at 11th level)And the same with Paladins. Granted Paladins can smite, but it uses a spell slot, whereas the Ranger can get this with every attack. Even at 11th level, when the Paladin gets an extra 1d8 radiant, the Ranger then gets 2d8 of force.In addition, all of the damage becomes force damage, which as far as I know is resisted by one creature (Helmed Horror). This includes any sneak attack damage from multi-classed Ranger/Rogues.Would anyone mind working out the numbers for me? As you may have guessed, I have a Ranger who wants to take this subclass and eventually multiclass into Rogue. Thanks in advance.--Scott</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Not a Hobbit, post: 7546024, member: 6836774"] So I know that there are a lot of really smart people who can do the math for this, but is the Planer Warrior ability (3rd Level Horizon Walker Ranger) really balanced? I mean, I know it's in Xanathar's, so it has been tested and such, but... Here's what it says: [I]"As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you. The next time you hit that creature on this turn with a weapon attack, all damage dealt by the attack becomes force damage, and the creature takes an extra 1d8 force damage from the attack. When you reach 11th level in this class, the extra damage increases to 2d8."[/I] It seems to me that this ability has 2x the damage of a Fighter with a longsword (1d8 v. 2d8 at 3rd level, 2d8 v. 4d8 at 5th-10th level, 3d8 v.6d8 at 11th level) And the same with Paladins. Granted Paladins can smite, but it uses a spell slot, whereas the Ranger can get this with every attack. Even at 11th level, when the Paladin gets an extra 1d8 radiant, the Ranger then gets 2d8 of force. In addition, all of the damage becomes force damage, which as far as I know is resisted by one creature (Helmed Horror). This includes any sneak attack damage from multi-classed Ranger/Rogues. Would anyone mind working out the numbers for me? As you may have guessed, I have a Ranger who wants to take this subclass and eventually multiclass into Rogue. Thanks in advance. --Scott [/QUOTE]

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