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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 1045338" data-attributes="member: 3051">It's a nicely balanced class as-is, I just think a few of the abilities should be tweaked for flavor purposes.  If anything, it might be a bit on the weak side compared to a straight Ranger (boy there's something I never thought I'd say!), but you just have to love the concept of the class.If you compare a Ranger 15 to a Ranger 5/Horizon Walker 10, they really balance out item-for-item except for the following:Ranger: Evasion+Camouflage+2 Combat Style Feats+5 spells per day (plus WIS bonus)Horizon Walker: Five Planar abilities.  dimension door every 1d4 rounds and the "mimic alignment" one, to me, easily make up for the lack of spells.  The Fire/Cold ones are decent but can be mimicked by a first-level spell.  Tremorsense is just plain strange.  Oh yeah, and the deciding thing for me: Horizon Walkers get Speak Language as a class skill!!!Balanced?  I'd say so, it's close enough that I'd have no problem letting someone play one IMC.As for those skill points, the 5 +4 skill boosts you receive will balance out the 20 skill points you lose by taking 10 HW levels.  The +4s don't stack with items, but they DO allow you to effectively go beyond the max skill ranks of level+3.  If you've maxxed out Hide and then take the terrain that gives +4 to Hide, you'll do nicely.  Of course, you'll probably sacrifice two of those bonuses to get Darkvision and the anti-Fatigue thing.Now what I'm thinking is, a Ranger 3/Rogue 2/Barbarian 2/Horizon Walker X would be the way to go.  You keep Evasion, get that tireless Rage thing going (well, once per day anyway), plus Uncanny Dodge and fast movement (and a bit of Sneak Attack).  What's not to like?</blockquote>

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