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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 1047774" data-attributes="member: 3051"><p>I don't have any problem with the no-Fatigue ability. Sure, it's a nice little perk to have, but it's not even a GOOD idea for a Barbarian who loves raging. Look at what it costs you.</p><p>A pure Barbarian needs miminum of level 13 for 8 cross-class skill ranks, so let's ignore that option.</p><p>The only classes with K(geography) as class skills are Ranger, Bard, and Wizard. To get 8 ranks from Ranger, you need to spend at least 2 levels (unless your INT is 14, or 12 for Humans). If you're going to do that, you might as well take a third Ranger level to pick up the Endurance for free.</p><p>So now you're looking at Barbarian X/Ranger 3/HW 1. Losing 4 levels of Barbarian automatically costs you 1 use of Rage per day, at least one DR and trapsense boost, delays you getting to the Greater Rage ability (the one that makes your Rages 50% stronger) by 4 levels, and keeps you from ever getting the Mighty Rage ability. We're not even considering the drop in HP.</p><p></p><p>Given this, you're not going to see hordes of Barbarians all wanting to take this class. A Barbarian who chooses this class on its own merits will get a nice little synergy, sure.</p><p></p><p>As for the unlimited <em>dimension door</em>, you definitely have to keep it unlimited on shifting planes, IMO. The 1d4-round cost keeps it from being abused in combat, so the only real issue to me is overland movement on the Prime. Travelling about ~1000 feet every 15 seconds is pretty fast (45 mph), but no more so than mid-level spells like <em>shadow walk</em> or such (let alone <em>teleport</em>), and you can't take nearly as many people along. Since you have to be at least 11th character level to get this ability, it's comparable.</p><p></p><p>If you still don't want it unlimited on the Prime, how about "1 use per class level per day, and when used on a shifting plane you don't count towards this limit"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 1047774, member: 3051"] I don't have any problem with the no-Fatigue ability. Sure, it's a nice little perk to have, but it's not even a GOOD idea for a Barbarian who loves raging. Look at what it costs you. A pure Barbarian needs miminum of level 13 for 8 cross-class skill ranks, so let's ignore that option. The only classes with K(geography) as class skills are Ranger, Bard, and Wizard. To get 8 ranks from Ranger, you need to spend at least 2 levels (unless your INT is 14, or 12 for Humans). If you're going to do that, you might as well take a third Ranger level to pick up the Endurance for free. So now you're looking at Barbarian X/Ranger 3/HW 1. Losing 4 levels of Barbarian automatically costs you 1 use of Rage per day, at least one DR and trapsense boost, delays you getting to the Greater Rage ability (the one that makes your Rages 50% stronger) by 4 levels, and keeps you from ever getting the Mighty Rage ability. We're not even considering the drop in HP. Given this, you're not going to see hordes of Barbarians all wanting to take this class. A Barbarian who chooses this class on its own merits will get a nice little synergy, sure. As for the unlimited [i]dimension door[/i], you definitely have to keep it unlimited on shifting planes, IMO. The 1d4-round cost keeps it from being abused in combat, so the only real issue to me is overland movement on the Prime. Travelling about ~1000 feet every 15 seconds is pretty fast (45 mph), but no more so than mid-level spells like [i]shadow walk[/i] or such (let alone [i]teleport[/i]), and you can't take nearly as many people along. Since you have to be at least 11th character level to get this ability, it's comparable. If you still don't want it unlimited on the Prime, how about "1 use per class level per day, and when used on a shifting plane you don't count towards this limit"? [/QUOTE]
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