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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 2324746" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>If you're going to quote what I say to debate it, then also quote and respond to the comments where I'm possibly agreeing with you and questioning my own knowledge for D&D rules:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So if the SRD says it's magical fire, then this whole debate about air or water existing is pointless. That doesn't mean those elements don't slip over into the EpoF, they do. But those elements don't make up ANY part of a Fire Elemental.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Huh? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, moisture = water, therefore, you can't have a 2nd element in a "FIRE" elemental. Where exactly did that arguement go?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1. I said fire evaporates moisture. You point out moisture = water (wow, yer smart). Therefore, fire evaporates water.</p><p></p><p>2. <strong>Moisture</strong> doesn't fuel fire, air fuels fire. Apparently the SRD says that it is in fact magical fire, so air isn't even needed to fuel a Fire Elemental. So nothing is needed to fuel the flames...so why would there be anything else for Horrid Wilting to affect? </p><p></p><p>3. A Fire Elemental is <strong>pure fire</strong>. It's not fire that surrounds a mass of some type of gas, water, air, flesh, or anything else. If it was, it would be a Cross Breed. </p><p></p><p>The original poster asked for advice. I'm just pointing out what a Fire Elemental is. If you want to make a Fire Elemental be a half-breed in your game and allow Horrid Wilting to suck water from a <strong>Fire</strong> Elemental, then whatever. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense...especially when fire doesn't even store water; fire feeds from air (and which has been pointed out in the SRD, the fire element doesn't even need air to fuel it). So again, fire evaporates water, so why would there be water in a Fire Elemental for Horrid Wilting to affect?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 2324746, member: 18701"] If you're going to quote what I say to debate it, then also quote and respond to the comments where I'm possibly agreeing with you and questioning my own knowledge for D&D rules: So if the SRD says it's magical fire, then this whole debate about air or water existing is pointless. That doesn't mean those elements don't slip over into the EpoF, they do. But those elements don't make up ANY part of a Fire Elemental. Huh? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, moisture = water, therefore, you can't have a 2nd element in a "FIRE" elemental. Where exactly did that arguement go? 1. I said fire evaporates moisture. You point out moisture = water (wow, yer smart). Therefore, fire evaporates water. 2. [b]Moisture[/b] doesn't fuel fire, air fuels fire. Apparently the SRD says that it is in fact magical fire, so air isn't even needed to fuel a Fire Elemental. So nothing is needed to fuel the flames...so why would there be anything else for Horrid Wilting to affect? 3. A Fire Elemental is [b]pure fire[/b]. It's not fire that surrounds a mass of some type of gas, water, air, flesh, or anything else. If it was, it would be a Cross Breed. The original poster asked for advice. I'm just pointing out what a Fire Elemental is. If you want to make a Fire Elemental be a half-breed in your game and allow Horrid Wilting to suck water from a [b]Fire[/b] Elemental, then whatever. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense...especially when fire doesn't even store water; fire feeds from air (and which has been pointed out in the SRD, the fire element doesn't even need air to fuel it). So again, fire evaporates water, so why would there be water in a Fire Elemental for Horrid Wilting to affect? [/QUOTE]
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