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<blockquote data-quote="hazmat" data-source="post: 2353780" data-attributes="member: 4227">Frank the DM:&nbsp; Interesting point but the effect of the spell is evaporating moisture.&nbsp; The crux of the debate is whether or not elemental fire is or can be &quot;moist&quot; or a liquid.&nbsp;&nbsp; In either the M:tG way of thinking or the StoryTeller way of thinking the spell fizzles if a fire elemental does not contain moisture.Just because something can be targeted by a spell does not mean that the spell works on the target.&nbsp; Patryn of Elvenshae:Arguing about the state of Fire is silly.&nbsp; Fire is not matter.&nbsp; Fire is a chemical reaction.&nbsp;&nbsp; So it is silly to say that liquid fire can exist.&nbsp;&nbsp; Though, one could say that a liquid can be on fire.So what is Elemental Fire?&nbsp; Is it some matter in the Plasma state? Is it a solid, liquid or gas that is on fire?&nbsp; Or is it the energy(heat and light) that would be released by a chemical reaction?&nbsp; Or is it the flame (a burning gas or vapor)?Really it could be any of these things.&nbsp; Though I'd side with it being &quot;energy&quot;&nbsp; as it doesn't need a fuel.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hazmat, post: 2353780, member: 4227"] Frank the DM: Interesting point but the effect of the spell is evaporating moisture. The crux of the debate is whether or not elemental fire is or can be "moist" or a liquid. In either the M:tG way of thinking or the StoryTeller way of thinking the spell fizzles if a fire elemental does not contain moisture. Just because something can be targeted by a spell does not mean that the spell works on the target. Patryn of Elvenshae: Arguing about the state of Fire is silly. Fire is not matter. Fire is a chemical reaction. So it is silly to say that liquid fire can exist. Though, one could say that a liquid can be on fire. So what is Elemental Fire? Is it some matter in the Plasma state? Is it a solid, liquid or gas that is on fire? Or is it the energy(heat and light) that would be released by a chemical reaction? Or is it the flame (a burning gas or vapor)? Really it could be any of these things. Though I'd side with it being "energy" as it doesn't need a fuel. [/QUOTE]

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