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<blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 5688850" data-attributes="member: 167"><p>Ah. Japanise horror. It's indeed odd sometimes. And honestly, I don't understand the popularity. I think it's mostly that Japanese looks are interesting, and asian generally exotic. I think it's because they are different. And to some people, different feels cooler, little grass is greener in other side of the fence, I guess.</p><p></p><p>Common weird Japanese horror element seems to be long wet hair. Generally there seems to be fear of water going on.</p><p></p><p>As what comes to persections of horror there are some variation from country to country. It's not really just western vr. eastern. There are some distict differences between horror stories from Japan/China/Korea.</p><p></p><p>And if you have horror movie, which main scary point is "deep dark wood", it's not gonna be scary at all, and thus succesful where I live at (Finland). Blair witch movies etc. fell to that catagory.</p><p></p><p>Personally there are things that I woudn't like in rpg. Plot of movie names Seven is one such (and it's been done to me to, one dm was really into that movie, and he was really good with mood setting). Of course to make that really stomach turning experience it must come with really much details, which I consider tasteless anyhow, usually.</p><p></p><p>Phantasm I, II also made quite an scary impression on me when I was teen. Regular zombie stuff don't scare me at all.</p><p></p><p>If I want to push my sister's buttons I just have to introduce some animated dolls. She was hit bad with Chuckie movies when she saw them way too young.</p><p></p><p>I think most things that scare or strongly affect us come from childhood/teenage. Manga has become really popular with young girls/teens where I live. And people who end up getting influence from various cultural sources are going to have different ideas than young people from my period. I think it's come full circle. Now little girls here are reading stuff that little girls in japan read, not just group on nerdy guys like few years back. Of course some cultural weirdness gets (purposefully) lost in translation.</p><p></p><p>Honestly whole sexy vampire/demon is very much Japanese thing (they often are long haired feminine males). But western teen culture adopted it.</p><p>Some people hate changes in supernatural beasties and claim it's not traditional. Well, not at Europe. Fanciest we got was Bram Stoker Dracula. Blade then. </p><p>Then we had WW esque Underworld movies. Then it got kiddish, then teen girlish. And this is where we are now. Mmh movie Jennifer's body start with words "hell is a teenage girl". </p><p></p><p>Phases of whom is target audiance for horror seems to flow with decades bit like fashions. </p><p></p><p>What works in rpg is an different animal, because some ideas of horror don't work if pc:s are supposed to survive/not get corrupted extended times. Many scenarios work best one shot where everyone dies, or last survivers are faded to black while told that whle they think they are safe, the death is right now closing in on them too.</p><p></p><p>Things stop being scary when they are repeated too many times. It's true with experience of violence, the commoness, as well. Succesful horror in non-shorterm- games is spare use of creepy. Sure some players have specific buttons to push, but playing on those is being cruel in RL. If you want players get impressed to dark stuff, you either have to play it to general mood with constant small remainers, or hit them with some nasty surprise. Or if you have keen social eye, use your event when players are ripe aka have worked themselves up by stuff they imagine is going on.</p><p></p><p>Horror in D&D doesn't work with all groups. Some people don't get into mood at all, and some just plain hate it when you "backstab" them with something scary and get pissed. It's not even too dark thing. Some people just hate mixed genres or generally can't stand horror. And prepare not get your feeling hurted if some people are not impressed at all what you think are scary and don't even want to roleplay it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zelda Themelin, post: 5688850, member: 167"] Ah. Japanise horror. It's indeed odd sometimes. And honestly, I don't understand the popularity. I think it's mostly that Japanese looks are interesting, and asian generally exotic. I think it's because they are different. And to some people, different feels cooler, little grass is greener in other side of the fence, I guess. Common weird Japanese horror element seems to be long wet hair. Generally there seems to be fear of water going on. As what comes to persections of horror there are some variation from country to country. It's not really just western vr. eastern. There are some distict differences between horror stories from Japan/China/Korea. And if you have horror movie, which main scary point is "deep dark wood", it's not gonna be scary at all, and thus succesful where I live at (Finland). Blair witch movies etc. fell to that catagory. Personally there are things that I woudn't like in rpg. Plot of movie names Seven is one such (and it's been done to me to, one dm was really into that movie, and he was really good with mood setting). Of course to make that really stomach turning experience it must come with really much details, which I consider tasteless anyhow, usually. Phantasm I, II also made quite an scary impression on me when I was teen. Regular zombie stuff don't scare me at all. If I want to push my sister's buttons I just have to introduce some animated dolls. She was hit bad with Chuckie movies when she saw them way too young. I think most things that scare or strongly affect us come from childhood/teenage. Manga has become really popular with young girls/teens where I live. And people who end up getting influence from various cultural sources are going to have different ideas than young people from my period. I think it's come full circle. Now little girls here are reading stuff that little girls in japan read, not just group on nerdy guys like few years back. Of course some cultural weirdness gets (purposefully) lost in translation. Honestly whole sexy vampire/demon is very much Japanese thing (they often are long haired feminine males). But western teen culture adopted it. Some people hate changes in supernatural beasties and claim it's not traditional. Well, not at Europe. Fanciest we got was Bram Stoker Dracula. Blade then. Then we had WW esque Underworld movies. Then it got kiddish, then teen girlish. And this is where we are now. Mmh movie Jennifer's body start with words "hell is a teenage girl". Phases of whom is target audiance for horror seems to flow with decades bit like fashions. What works in rpg is an different animal, because some ideas of horror don't work if pc:s are supposed to survive/not get corrupted extended times. Many scenarios work best one shot where everyone dies, or last survivers are faded to black while told that whle they think they are safe, the death is right now closing in on them too. Things stop being scary when they are repeated too many times. It's true with experience of violence, the commoness, as well. Succesful horror in non-shorterm- games is spare use of creepy. Sure some players have specific buttons to push, but playing on those is being cruel in RL. If you want players get impressed to dark stuff, you either have to play it to general mood with constant small remainers, or hit them with some nasty surprise. Or if you have keen social eye, use your event when players are ripe aka have worked themselves up by stuff they imagine is going on. Horror in D&D doesn't work with all groups. Some people don't get into mood at all, and some just plain hate it when you "backstab" them with something scary and get pissed. It's not even too dark thing. Some people just hate mixed genres or generally can't stand horror. And prepare not get your feeling hurted if some people are not impressed at all what you think are scary and don't even want to roleplay it. [/QUOTE]
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