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<blockquote data-quote="Chun-tzu" data-source="post: 511524" data-attributes="member: 1441">A lot of the official (and unofficial) prestige classes aren't terribly balanced, in terms of the losses and bonuses more or less adding up.Right, I am. What else should a mage/rogue be, except a watered down version of each? From what I've read on these boards, the Arcane Trickster seems to have worked out fine (as is) in many campaigns. It's a bit weak at the levels just before achieving the PrC, then catches up, and becomes relatively powerful at higher levels.Yeah, I've read his stuff. Monte also says that one of the functions of Prestige Classes is to make an otherwise non-viable concept workable. This, I think, is where we might be disagreeing.Some people say that an evenly multiclassed mage/rogue is perfectly fine. Some (including me) think it's weak, and that even multiclassing is just a terrible idea for any serious spellcaster. So, yes, the Arcane Trickster is clearly more powerful than a mage/rogue, but that's because a mage/rogue is too weak, and in need of the boost.So, if you think a Rogue 10/Wizard 10 is just as powerful as any other level 20 character, then the Arcane Trickster is overpowered. But if you think a Rogue 10/Wizard 10 is at a disadvantage to other level 20 characters, then a Rogue 5/Wizard 5/Arcane Trickster 10 is fine.&nbsp; (And for the record, I think the Arcane Trickster is a little overpowered, but not terribly.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chun-tzu, post: 511524, member: 1441"] A lot of the official (and unofficial) prestige classes aren't terribly balanced, in terms of the losses and bonuses more or less adding up. Right, I am. What else should a mage/rogue be, except a watered down version of each? From what I've read on these boards, the Arcane Trickster seems to have worked out fine (as is) in many campaigns. It's a bit weak at the levels just before achieving the PrC, then catches up, and becomes relatively powerful at higher levels. Yeah, I've read his stuff. Monte also says that one of the functions of Prestige Classes is to make an otherwise non-viable concept workable. This, I think, is where we might be disagreeing. Some people say that an evenly multiclassed mage/rogue is perfectly fine. Some (including me) think it's weak, and that even multiclassing is just a terrible idea for any serious spellcaster. So, yes, the Arcane Trickster is clearly more powerful than a mage/rogue, but that's because a mage/rogue is too weak, and in need of the boost. So, if you think a Rogue 10/Wizard 10 is just as powerful as any other level 20 character, then the Arcane Trickster is overpowered. But if you think a Rogue 10/Wizard 10 is at a disadvantage to other level 20 characters, then a Rogue 5/Wizard 5/Arcane Trickster 10 is fine. (And for the record, I think the Arcane Trickster is a [i]little[/i] overpowered, but not terribly.) [/QUOTE]

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