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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9424676" data-attributes="member: 7026617"><p>It helps, but a couple things:</p><p></p><p>1. You might have a broad understanding of what you'll run into in a typical cyberpunk heist, but the unexpected not only might occur, you expect it; while you need to do your research, the other side is doing the best to keep at least some of their security below the radar, too, and some of it can't be determined at least within what's often a limited time frame.</p><p></p><p>2. Not all the things I saw in "dungeon crawls" 40 years ago were completely opaque; it was rarely the case you were the first people to stick your nose in in centuries. Yeah, you wouldn't know all the details but neither were you completely in the dark.</p><p></p><p>So at least I hope you understand why I think your definition here is <em>very</em> specific, and not clear from <em>just</em> the term "dungeon crawl".</p><p></p><p>That said, I'm afraid I still don't see, even when using your definition, why game system simplicity is necessary to make it work. The only way I can see that being a thing is if the GM is making it up as he goes along rather than hard coding it in advance, and frankly, that seems a bit suspect for that type of game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 9424676, member: 7026617"] It helps, but a couple things: 1. You might have a broad understanding of what you'll run into in a typical cyberpunk heist, but the unexpected not only might occur, you expect it; while you need to do your research, the other side is doing the best to keep at least some of their security below the radar, too, and some of it can't be determined at least within what's often a limited time frame. 2. Not all the things I saw in "dungeon crawls" 40 years ago were completely opaque; it was rarely the case you were the first people to stick your nose in in centuries. Yeah, you wouldn't know all the details but neither were you completely in the dark. So at least I hope you understand why I think your definition here is [I]very[/I] specific, and not clear from [I]just[/I] the term "dungeon crawl". That said, I'm afraid I still don't see, even when using your definition, why game system simplicity is necessary to make it work. The only way I can see that being a thing is if the GM is making it up as he goes along rather than hard coding it in advance, and frankly, that seems a bit suspect for that type of game. [/QUOTE]
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