Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
Hot take: Most of Breaking Bad was actually boring filler
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8859046" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>[SPOILER]</p><p>Except she wasn't responding to Kevin's lie ... she was responding to his truth. The lie (if it was a lie) wasn't for Kevin - it was for Nora (and, by extension, for the viewers).</p><p></p><p>Start with the viewers. What <em>actually happened </em>in the show? Where did Kevin go in those alternate world episodes? I'm not saying that there's an answer, but what I am saying is that the choices you make when choosing to answer it matter! Look at the approach you are taking with this ... you are saying that she is lying ... because her story doesn't make sense to you. In a world where 2% of the population vanished without a clue? </p><p></p><p>You see the ouroboros here, right? The show presented an explanation for rational viewers of "what it all meant," that rational viewers would reject. On the other hand, the show presented a rational explanation that was faith-based for people that rejected the rational reading of the show! Put another way- if you think she's lying (a rational response), you keep the mystery of the show. But if you accept her truth, you deny the mystery. What a conundrum! </p><p></p><p>But looking even more deeply at Nora, her character arc was entirely defined both by her belief that there was an answer to what happened to her family, and the issue of whether she would pursue that into the chamber ... and what happened at that last moment. In the end, is all that other stuff (supernatural, magical realism) real, or is it just the extraneous detritus to distract us from the yawning abyss that is reality? </p><p></p><p>Kevin and Nora don't care, because at least, at long last, they can believe in each other. Maybe that's all you can do?</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8859046, member: 7023840"] [SPOILER] Except she wasn't responding to Kevin's lie ... she was responding to his truth. The lie (if it was a lie) wasn't for Kevin - it was for Nora (and, by extension, for the viewers). Start with the viewers. What [I]actually happened [/I]in the show? Where did Kevin go in those alternate world episodes? I'm not saying that there's an answer, but what I am saying is that the choices you make when choosing to answer it matter! Look at the approach you are taking with this ... you are saying that she is lying ... because her story doesn't make sense to you. In a world where 2% of the population vanished without a clue? You see the ouroboros here, right? The show presented an explanation for rational viewers of "what it all meant," that rational viewers would reject. On the other hand, the show presented a rational explanation that was faith-based for people that rejected the rational reading of the show! Put another way- if you think she's lying (a rational response), you keep the mystery of the show. But if you accept her truth, you deny the mystery. What a conundrum! But looking even more deeply at Nora, her character arc was entirely defined both by her belief that there was an answer to what happened to her family, and the issue of whether she would pursue that into the chamber ... and what happened at that last moment. In the end, is all that other stuff (supernatural, magical realism) real, or is it just the extraneous detritus to distract us from the yawning abyss that is reality? Kevin and Nora don't care, because at least, at long last, they can believe in each other. Maybe that's all you can do? [/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Geek Talk & Media
Hot take: Most of Breaking Bad was actually boring filler
Top