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<blockquote data-quote="Vhex" data-source="post: 6076491" data-attributes="member: 94831">I'm not sure I understand the goal.&nbsp; Is the goal to make it easier to push someone off a cliff?The house rule that I use is that you must make a saving throw for each square that you would go over.&nbsp; I allow my players to be imaginative in getting out of it and I don't like &quot;Save or Die&quot; mechanics in general, but there's also the idea that you probably shouldn't stand next to a cliff next to an ogre throwing 300 pound boulders 20 feet if you only weigh 200 pounds.&nbsp; So, I use the rules as written but if the push takes you 1 square over you roll 1 saving throw, if it takes you 4 squares over then you roll 4 saving throws.&nbsp; This is the same for PCs and monsters.As for why it's harder for an unarmored halfling wizard to pull himself up -- he spends his time reading books and has never done a pull-up in his life nor lifted much more than 5 pounds at one time.&nbsp; Whereas the one in full armor wears it near constantly and does pull-ups like they're going out of style.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vhex, post: 6076491, member: 94831"] I'm not sure I understand the goal. Is the goal to make it easier to push someone off a cliff? The house rule that I use is that you must make a saving throw for each square that you would go over. I allow my players to be imaginative in getting out of it and I don't like "Save or Die" mechanics in general, but there's also the idea that you probably shouldn't stand next to a cliff next to an ogre throwing 300 pound boulders 20 feet if you only weigh 200 pounds. So, I use the rules as written but if the push takes you 1 square over you roll 1 saving throw, if it takes you 4 squares over then you roll 4 saving throws. This is the same for PCs and monsters. As for why it's harder for an unarmored halfling wizard to pull himself up -- he spends his time reading books and has never done a pull-up in his life nor lifted much more than 5 pounds at one time. Whereas the one in full armor wears it near constantly and does pull-ups like they're going out of style. [/QUOTE]

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